Solve Spherical Shell Gauss Problem with Differential Form Only

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The discussion revolves around solving for the electric field within a hollow spherical shell with a specific charge density using only the differential form of Gauss's law. The user initially found a solution for the electric field but encountered confusion regarding its consistency with the integral form. The conversation highlights the importance of boundary conditions, specifically that the electric field must equal zero at the inner radius of the shell. Participants clarify that while a particular solution can be found, it must be adjusted to satisfy the boundary conditions derived from the problem's constraints. Ultimately, the user gains clarity on the relationship between the differential equation and the necessary boundary conditions for the electric field.
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Homework Statement


A hollow spherical shell carries charge density \rho=\frac{k}{r^2} in the region a<=r<=b, where a is the inner radius and b is the outer radius. Find the electric field in the region a<r<b.
I'm not allowed to use integral form of Gauss's law, must use differential form.

Homework Equations


Relating charge density to electric field divergence \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Using the integral method, I believe the electric field is \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}}\frac{r-a}{r^2}\hat{r}
I then went ahead and determined that spherical co-ordinates are the way to go, and that the E-field has only an \hat{r} component and put together
\vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{1}{r^2}\frac{∂(r^2\vec{E}(\vec{r}))}{∂r}=\frac{k}{r^2\epsilon_{0}}

By inspection I decided that I should have \vec{E}(\vec{r})=\frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r}\hat{r}. While this does satisfy \vec{∇}\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\epsilon_{0}}, it is not in agreement with the integral form.

So my question is, am I using these relationships incorrectly? I'm very confused, since when I integrate ∇E from a to r, I get the same answer as the Gauss integral form, but not sure why this could be, since I understand that the integral of ∇E is equal to the charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface. Since I'm just interested in the E-field at a point in the shell, why would I need to integrate anyway?
 
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Hello, gavman.

By inspection you found a particular solution to the differential equation. You can add to it any solution to the associated homogeneous differential equation. Then you can satisfy the appropriate boundary condition at r = a.
 
Hi TSny
Ok, I have \frac{k}{\epsilon_{0}r^2} as a solution to the associated DE. To get this I used ∇E=0 then substituted my particular solution for E. Do I then just state that at the boundary, E=0 and then build an equation from my two E(r) equations which satisfies this condition? I'm just not sure if I have made an unreasonable assumption.
thanks.
 
Yes, that sounds right. Of course, you are invoking the boundary condition that E = 0 at r = a and you might ask where that comes from. It's easy to use Gauss' law to get E = 0 everywhere r<a. But since you are not to use Gauss' law, I'm not sure how you are supposed to get the boundary condition at r= a.
 
In the inner range (r<a), ρ=0. The solution of ∇E=0 is E=C/r2, C is a constant. But there is no singularity at r=0, so C must be zero.

ehild
 
Ah. Good. That nails the boundary condition.
 
Great, thanks for your help guys, appreciate it.
 

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