Solve the given equation that involves fractional exponent

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation involving a fractional exponent: 5(x+1)^{1.5}-4x-28=0. Participants are exploring methods to solve this equation and examining the implications of their steps.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various steps taken to manipulate the equation, including squaring both sides and the implications of doing so. Questions arise regarding the validity of the roots found, particularly concerning the existence of imaginary solutions and the nature of the original equation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the roots of the equation, with some participants confirming the existence of imaginary solutions while others question the assumptions made during the solving process. The dialogue reflects a mix of agreement and differing opinions on the treatment of complex roots.

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Participants note the potential oversight regarding the assumption that the square root function yields only positive results, which could affect the solutions considered valid for the original equation.

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Homework Statement
##5(x+1)^{1.5}-4x-28=0##
Relevant Equations
Algebra.
Is there a better way of solving this,
My steps,
##5(x+1)^{1.5}-4x-28=0##
##(x+1)^{1.5}=\dfrac{4x+28}{5}##
##(x+1)^3=(\dfrac{4x+28}{5})^2##
##x^3+3x^2+3x+1=\dfrac{16(x+7)^2}{25}##
##25x^3+75x^2+75x+25=16(x^2+14x+49)##
##25x^3+59x^2-149x-759=0##

Letting
##f(x)=25x^3+59x^2-149x-759=0##

and using factor theorem,

##f(3)=0##

##⇒x=3##.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement: ##5(x+1)^{1.5}-4x-28=0##
Relevant Equations: Algebra.

Is there a better way of solving this,
My steps,
##5(x+1)^{1.5}-4x-28=0##
##(x+1)^{1.5}=\dfrac{4x+28}{5}##
##(x+1)^3=(\dfrac{4x+28}{5})^2##
##x^3+3x^2+3x+1=\dfrac{16(x+7)^2}{25}##
##25x^3+75x^2+75x+25=16(x^2+14x+49)##
##25x^3+59x^2-149x-759=0##

Letting
##f(x)=25x^3+59x^2-149x-759=0##

and using factor theorem,

##f(3)=0##

##⇒x=3##.
How did you find ##x=3## and what about the two other roots? You also made an irreversible step by squaring. Are the two other roots solutions of the original equation, too?
 
fresh_42 said:
How did you find ##x=3## and what about the two other roots? You also made an irreversible step by squaring. Are the two other roots solutions of the original equation, too?
...by trial and error method around ##x=±0, ±1, ±2, ...##. The other roots are imaginary.

By trial and error, i had already checked using Newton's method and could see where the approximation value was headed to. You may advise on a better way that will incorporate the imaginary solution/s.
 
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chwala said:
The other roots are imaginary.
Yes, but they could still provide solutions. I don't think so, but it cannot be ruled out. You haven't said that only real solutions count.
 
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I checked the complex solutions
$$
x\in \dfrac{1}{25}\cdot\left\{-67\mp 6\sqrt{51}\;\mathrm{i}\right\}
$$
and it was close:
$$
\dfrac{4}{5}\cdot \dfrac{x+7}{x+1}\in\dfrac{1}{5}\cdot\left\{-3\pm \sqrt{51}\;\mathrm{i}\right\} \quad\text{ and }\quad \sqrt{x+1}\in \dfrac{1}{5}\cdot \left\{3 \mp \sqrt{51} \;\mathrm{i}\right\}
$$
I hope I made no sign error. ##-\sqrt{x+1}=\dfrac{4}{5}\cdot \dfrac{x+7}{x+1}## would have been the other solutions! This means that we made the (silent) assumption that ##(x+1)^{0.5}=+\sqrt{x+1}.##
 
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