Solve the homogeneous ODE: dy/dx = (x^2 + y^2)/xy

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The discussion revolves around solving the homogeneous ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by dy/dx = (x^2 + y^2)/xy. Participants explore the implications of integrating the equation and the placement of constants in the resulting expressions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the role of the constant after integration and questions whether it is acceptable to express the constant in different forms, such as ln k. Other participants discuss the implications of placing the constant differently and how it affects the final expressions.

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Participants are actively discussing the placement of constants in the integration process and how it relates to initial conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equivalence of different forms of constants, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach.

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There is a mention of initial conditions and their role in determining the constants, as well as a reference to the dimensional considerations in physics problems, which may influence the integration approach.

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kindly see attached below:
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##y=vx##
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this is pretty easy for me to solve, no doubt on that. My question is on the constant. Alternatively, is it correct to have,
##ln x= \frac {v^2}{2}##+ C, then work it from there...
secondly, we are 'making" ##c= ln k##, is it for convenience purposes?, supposing i left the constant as it is, would that be wrong?
##ln x= \frac {v^2}{2}##+ C
##ln x-c= \frac {v^2}{2}##
##2[ln x-c]=v^2##
##2x^2[ln x-c]=y^2## would this be correct?...the question that i am trying to ask is, does it matter where one places the constant after integration.
 
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No it doesn't matter where you put the constant neither if you set it equal to ##\ln k## or ##\ln \frac{1}{k}##, because given an initial condition you will get the same formula for v in both cases, but the exact value of the constants will be different (for example if you find k=2 for the one case, you ll find k=1/2 for the other case).
 
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Delta2 said:
No it doesn't matter where you put the constant neither if you set it equal to ##\ln k## or ##\ln \frac{1}{k}##, because given an initial condition you will get the same formula for v in both cases, but the exact value of the constants will be different (for example if you find k=2 for the one case, you ll find k=1/2 for the other case).
nice delta :cool:
 
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My personal preference is to insert the initial conditions explicitly by doing definite integrals
$$\int_{v_0}^v v~dv=\int_{x_0}^x \frac{1}{x}~dx$$ $$\frac{1}{2}\left(v^2-v_0^2\right)=\ln\left(\frac{x}{x_0}\right) \implies v=\pm \sqrt{ 2\left[v_0^2+ \ln\left(\frac{x}{x_0}\right)\right]}.$$If the equation is related to a physics problem, this method takes care of the dimensions automatically.
 
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