Solve the Walking Puzzle: Find 2.5 Miles in 30 Minutes

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The problem involves demonstrating that there exists a 30-minute interval during which a person walks 2.5 miles, given that they walk 5 miles in 1 hour. The context is rooted in concepts of continuity and the intermediate value theorem within the subject area of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the function M(t) representing the distance walked over time and consider the implications of continuity. Questions arise about the conditions under which M(0) and M(30) can be less than or greater than 2.5 miles, and the justification for the existence of a 30-minute interval where the distance equals 2.5 miles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the intermediate value theorem and questioning the validity of the reasoning presented. Some participants express understanding of the concepts, while others seek further clarification on the logical connections being made.

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Participants note the importance of verifying hypotheses related to the intermediate value theorem and the rigor expected in mathematical proofs, particularly in an academic setting.

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Hello
Its a pretty tricky question ! Help me find the answer so i can finally sleep (i only get the answer when i hand in the question sheets in 3 weeks) :D

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You walk for 1 hour, and do 5 miles during that hour

Question : show that there exist a time interval of length 30minutes during which you have walked 2.5 miles

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I thought about writing :

dD = Vi * dt
where D : distance
t = time
(Vi = dP / dt)

And integrating dD between 0 and 1hour. and saying that the whole is equal to 5 miles
and then separate the integral into 3 ones where one is from 0 to 30 minutes

but it doesn't lead to much conclusions

Any ideas would be appreciated, thank you :)
 
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Call M(t) the distance you walk between time t and time t+30 minutes. Think about M(0) and M(30). Is it possible they are both less than 2.5? Is it possible they are both greater than 2.5? M(t) is continuous as t goes from 0 to 30 minutes.
 
sorry for the late reply, i had an exam, 1 oral test, 2 big homeworks in between :D

Hum, yes we have M(0) + M(30) = 5
one is necessarily bigger than the other if they are not equal. But then, if one is bigger than the other, how do you justify that there is a 30minutes time interval during which you have walked exactly 2.5 miles ?
 
Because M(t) is a continuous function for t in [0,30]. Think about using the intermediate value theorem.
 
oh, i understand now, thank you :)

if M(0) = a
M(30) = b

we have a+b = 5
we suppose 'a' different than 'b'

M(t) continuous on the interval [0, 30]
so there exists a 't' belonging to R where M(t) = 2.5
 
You still haven't proven anything. What you're saying is equivalent to me saying:
"if M(0) = a
M(30) = b

we have a+b = 5
we suppose 'a' different than 'b'

M(t) continuous on the interval [0, 30]
so there exists a dog named ralph, somewhere"

Why is this the case?
 
oh, this is not what i would write, first of all because i am in France ( i would write it in french), and finally because i just quickly resumed it here.

I will of course clearly show i have verified all the hypothesis of the intermediate value theorem. And i better do, my maths professor is more rigorous than my calculator :D
 

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