Solve $(x^2+3x+2)(x^2-2x-1)(x^2-7x+12)+24=0$

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation $(x^2+3x+2)(x^2-2x-1)(x^2-7x+12)+24=0$. Participants explore methods and tricks for tackling this polynomial equation.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant suggests using a specific method, referred to as an "old trick," to solve the equation.
  • Another participant expresses appreciation for the method and indicates they used the same approach.
  • A third participant shares enthusiasm about the trick, noting its interesting nature and personal history with discovering it at a young age.
  • There is mention of a general strategy for factoring expressions of the form $ABC + K$ to simplify the problem.

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Participants appear to share an interest in the method discussed, but there is no explicit consensus on the effectiveness or correctness of the approach, as the discussion remains exploratory.

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Some assumptions about the applicability of the method may be implicit, and the discussion does not resolve any mathematical steps or provide a complete solution to the equation.

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Find all real numbers that satisfy $(x^2+3x+2)(x^2-2x-1)(x^2-7x+12)+24=0$.
 
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An old trick :

We see that $x^2 + 3x + 2 = (x + 1)(x + 2)$ and $x^2 - 7x + 12 = (x - 3)(x - 4)$. Then, we have :

$$\begin{aligned}(x^2+3x+2)(x^2-2x-1)(x^2-7x+12)+24 &= (x + 1)(x + 2)(x^2 - 2x - 1)(x - 3)(x - 4) + 24 \\ &= \{(x + 1)(x - 3)\}\{x^2 - 2x - 1\}\{(x + 2)(x - 4)\} + 24 \\ &= (x^2 - 2x - 3)(x^2 - 2x - 1)(x^2 - 2x - 8) + 24\end{aligned}$$

Setting $t = x^2 - 2x$ gives the twisted cubic of the form

$$(t - 3)(t - 1)(t - 8) + 24 = t^3 - 12t^2 + 35t = t(t - 5)(t - 7)$$

Reversing the transformation gives

$$x(x - 2)(x^2 - 2x - 5)(x^2 - 2x - 7)$$

The real roots are then

$$ x = 0, 2, 1 - \sqrt{6}, 1 + \sqrt{6}, 1 - 2\sqrt{2}, 1 + 2\sqrt{2} $$

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Thanks for participating, Balarka and fyi, I used the same method to tackle the problem as well!(Smile)
 
That. Was. Sooooooo. Cool! (heart)

-Dan
 
Yeah, quite interesting, this trick. Whenever you find $ABC + K$, factorize $A$, $B$ and $C$ - see what you have :p

I discovered this one when I was 5, thought it was original then but a few years afterwards, I noticed that some textbooks using this method. Funny, no?
 

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