Solve x in Equation: (x-1/x)^(1/2)+(1-1/x)^(1/2)=x

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The problem involves finding all real numbers ##x## that satisfy the equation \(\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}+\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=x\). The discussion centers around algebraic manipulation and the implications of squaring both sides of the equation.

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  • Participants discuss moving terms and squaring the equation to simplify it, leading to higher powers of ##x##. There are attempts to rearrange the resulting expressions and check for correctness. Some participants also explore multiplying both sides by a specific expression to derive new equations.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the algebraic manipulations are being explored. Some participants offer corrections to the derived equations, suggesting that previous attempts may have contained errors. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the relationships between the equations derived from the original problem.

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Participants note the complexity of the algebra involved and the potential for errors in squaring and rearranging terms. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the problem, particularly in the context of late-night study sessions.

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Homework Statement


Find all real numbers ##x## such that,
[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}+\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=x[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


Moving the second term on LHS to the right and squaring both the sides,
[tex]x-\frac{1}{x}=x^2+1-\frac{1}{x}-2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Rearranging,
[tex]x^2-x+1=2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Squaring again leads to terms containing 4th and 3rd power of x and I don't find a way to proceed further. Here's the expression I get after squaring and rearranging,
[tex]x^4+2x^3-x^2-2x+1=0[/tex]

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


Find all real numbers ##x## such that,
[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}+\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=x[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Moving the second term on LHS to the right and squaring both the sides,
[tex]x-\frac{1}{x}=x^2+1-\frac{1}{x}-2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Rearranging,
[tex]x^2-x+1=2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Squaring again leads to terms containing 4th and 3rd power of x and I don't find a way to proceed further. Here's the expression I get after squaring and rearranging,
[tex]x^4+2x^3-x^2-2x+1=0[/tex]

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

##x^4+2x^3-x^2-2x+1=(x^2+x-1)^2##
 
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[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}+\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=x[/tex]

Multiply both sides by [itex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}-\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}[/itex] to get

[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}-\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=1-\frac{1}{x}[/tex]
Now, add the two equations to get:

[tex]2\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)+1[/tex]

Let [itex]y=\sqrt{\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)}[/itex]

Then [tex]y^2-2y+1=0[/tex]
 
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LCKurtz said:
##x^4+2x^3-x^2-2x+1=(x^2+x-1)^2##

That was too obvious to be missed. :-p

Thank you! :smile:
Chestermiller said:
[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}+\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=x[/tex]

Multiply both sides by [itex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}-\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}[/itex] to get

[tex]\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}-\left(1-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=1-\frac{1}{x}[/tex]
Now, add the two equations to get:

[tex]2\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2}=\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)+1[/tex]

Let [itex]y=\sqrt{\left(x-\frac{1}{x}\right)}[/itex]

Then [tex]y^2-2y+1=0[/tex]

Nice one Chet, thanks a lot! :smile:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
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Moving the second term on LHS to the right and squaring both the sides,
[tex]x-\frac{1}{x}=x^2+1-\frac{1}{x}-2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Rearranging,
[tex]x^2-x+1=2x\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x}}[/tex]
Squaring again leads to terms containing 4th and 3rd power of x and I don't find a way to proceed further. Here's the expression I get after squaring and rearranging,
[tex]x^4+2x^3-x^2-2x+1=0[/tex]

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!


Your final equation is incorrect. You need to redo the squaring and rearranging. The correct relationship is:
[tex]x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0[/tex]
This is the same as:
[tex](x^2-x-1)^2=0[/tex]
 
Chestermiller said:
Your final equation is incorrect. You need to redo the squaring and rearranging. The correct relationship is:
[tex]x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0[/tex]
This is the same as:
[tex](x^2-x-1)^2=0[/tex]

Sorry about the typo, I knew the correct expression. I redid the squaring and rearranging when I was following LCKurtz's hint. :)

I shouldn't be posting questions in the midnight. :-p
 

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