Solve ##z^2(1-z^2)=16## using Complex numbers

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The problem involves solving the equation z2(1-z2)=16 using complex numbers. Participants are exploring various algebraic manipulations and approaches to rewrite the equation in a more manageable form.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the equation into a polynomial form, questioning how certain expressions are derived, particularly the manipulation leading to z4 + 8z2 + 16 - 9z2 = 0. Some suggest using the method of completing the square, while others propose factoring techniques and comparing coefficients.

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The discussion is ongoing, with multiple participants sharing their thoughts on different approaches. Some have provided insights into the algebraic manipulation, while others are still seeking clarification on specific steps. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are navigating through algebraic identities and transformations, with some expressing confusion over the steps taken in the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty regarding the manipulation of terms in the equation.

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The problem is as shown...all steps are pretty easy to follow. I need help on the highlighted part in red. How did they come to;
##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2=0## or is it by manipulating ##-z^2= 8z^2-9z^2?## trial and error ...

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The idea is to make formula of
A^2=B^2
. Let us see.
z^4+16=z^2
(z^2+4)^2=9z^2=(3z)^2
z^2+4=\pm 3z
 
A systematic approach is to factorize <br /> z^4 - z^2 + 16 = (z^2 + Az + 4)(z^2 + Bz + 4) and compare coefficients of powers of z to get three equations for A and B: <br /> \begin{split}<br /> z^3 \quad &amp;: \quad A + B = 0 \\<br /> z^2 \quad &amp;: \quad 8 + AB = -1 \\<br /> z \quad &amp;: \quad 4A + 4B = 0<br /> \end{split} Since the first and third are really the same equation, we can solve this system to obtain (A, B) = (3, -3).
 
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chwala said:
How did they come to

completion of the square
 
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malawi_glenn said:
completion of the square
How did they come to ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2##?...of course the step after is complete square method...no problem there. Or it was just simply identifying that;

##-9z^2+8z^2=-z^2##
 
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chwala said:
How did they come to ##z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2##?
##z^4-z^2+16 = z^4-z^2+16 + 0 = z^4-z^2+16 +8z^2 - 8z^2 = z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2 ##
 
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malawi_glenn said:
##z^4-z^2+16 = z^4-z^2+16 + 0 = z^4-z^2+16 +8z^2 - 8z^2 = z^4+8z^2+16-9z^2 ##
@malawi_glenn smart move there mate!
 
Here's another approach. Let ##w = z^2##:$$ww^* = |w|^2 = 16\frac{|w|^2}{16} = w(1-w)\frac{|w|^2}{16}$$ $$\Rightarrow w^* = (1-w)\frac{|w|^2}{16}$$Comparing the real and imaginary parts with ##w = a + ib## gives:$$-b = -b\frac{|w|^2}{16} \Rightarrow |w|^2 = 16 \Rightarrow a^2 + b^2 = 16$$$$a = 1-a \Rightarrow a = \frac 1 2 \Rightarrow b^2 = -\frac{63}{4}$$$$\Rightarrow z^2 = \frac 1 2 \pm \frac{3\sqrt 7}{2}i$$
 
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chwala said:
@malawi_glenn smart move there mate!
And you do this in order to complete the square adding and subtracting the same thing so it fits
 
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