Solving 3x3 Magic Squares: 4/6-Folder Reflection & Found

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The discussion revolves around solving a 3x3 magic square with some numbers already filled in. The original poster presents a specific configuration and questions how to complete it, particularly noting that traditional methods may not apply when starting with numbers other than 1. They also reference different types of magic squares labeled by their instructor, including terms like "4 folder reflection" and various "step found" classifications.

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  • Participants discuss the common sum for a 3x3 magic square and suggest using this to complete the square. There are mentions of algorithms for creating magic squares, particularly for odd-numbered squares. Some participants question the terminology used by the original poster regarding "steps" and "reflections" in relation to magic squares.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the properties of magic squares and questioning the original poster's terminology. Some guidance has been offered regarding the common sum and methods to complete the square, but there is no explicit consensus on the terminology or the specific approach to take.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definitions of "4 folder reflection" and "step found," which may not be standard terminology in the context of magic squares. The original poster's notes appear to contain unclear information that is being questioned by others.

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3x3 magic squares * updated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_square#Types_of_magic_squares_and_their_construction

given a 3x3 block with 3 numbers inserted

e.g.

|2|_|_|
|_|_|6|
|_|3|_|

How would I solve this magic square? Is there a pattern for this?

The method in wikipedia only applies when it starts with the 1. What if it's something like the above?

I have something that I cannot figure out in my notes. My instructor labeled some possible magic squares below...

she labeled these four as 4 folder reflection

|6|1|8|
|7|5|3|
|2|9|4|

|4|9|2|
|3|5|7|
|8|1|6|

|2|7|6|
|9|5|1|
|4|3|8|

|8|3|4|
|1|5|9|
|6|7|2|

then labeled this one below a two step found(i think it's called found can't make out the words)
|6|1|8|
|7|5|3|
|2|9|4|

then label this one below a 4 step found
|4|9|2|
|3|5|7|
|8|1|6|

and labeled this one below a 6 step found
|6|7|2|
|1|5|9|
|8|3|4|
 
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I don't know whether you got the value for the common sum in your magic square, but for the 3 by 3 square the sum is 15.
Look at your first column, decide how to finish that to get a column sum of 15. With that done you should be able to finish the rest of the square.

There are algorithms for creating a magic square - the easiest ones i know of are for "odd" magic squares (3 by 3, 5 by 5, etc). The are easy to find if you look around.
 
statdad said:
I don't know whether you got the value for the common sum in your magic square, but for the 3 by 3 square the sum is 15.
Look at your first column, decide how to finish that to get a column sum of 15. With that done you should be able to finish the rest of the square.

There are algorithms for creating a magic square - the easiest ones i know of are for "odd" magic squares (3 by 3, 5 by 5, etc). The are easy to find if you look around.

I understand this, however, in my notes it mentioned 4 steps, 6 steps, and stuff likr 4 folder reflexive... anyone got any idea what's all about?
 
Then, what, exactly, is your question? If you are given some of the numbers, like in your original post, then the simplest way to find the others is to set up the equations they must satisfy to add up to 15.

What your teacher is giving is how, given one magic square, to create others by reflection, etc.
 
I don't wish to bust your bubble, but there's only one 3 x 3 normal magic square, 880 distinct 4 x 4 normal MS; 275,305,224 distinct normal 5 x 5 MS (no one knows exactly how many above a 5 x 5 normal MS).

MS formed by reflection, rotation and transposition are trivial since each member keeps the other members as the same neighbors. [MS = magic square(s)]
 

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