Solving a Cubic: Help Appreciated!

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The discussion revolves around solving the cubic equation \(2t^3=5t-11t^2\). Participants explore various methods for finding the roots of the equation, including factoring and using the quadratic formula. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the cubic equation and attempts to rearrange it into standard form, expressing difficulty in factoring.
  • Another participant suggests factoring out \(t\) and identifies \(t=0\) as one root, while noting that the quadratic factor does not factor conventionally.
  • There is a proposal to use the quadratic formula to solve the quadratic factor, which is affirmed by another participant.
  • Participants discuss the roots derived from the quadratic formula, including the expression \(t = \frac{-11 \pm \sqrt{161}}{4}\) along with the root \(t=0\).
  • Questions arise regarding the origin of the root \(t=0\), which leads to a clarification of the factoring process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to solve the cubic equation and the identification of the roots, including \(t=0\) and the roots from the quadratic factor. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method for solving the quadratic beyond the acknowledgment of multiple approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the quadratic factor does not factor neatly, and there is discussion about the applicability of the quadratic formula and completing the square as alternative methods.

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I'm trying to solve the cubic:

2t^3=5t-11t^2

Been stuck on this for awhile. Any help is appreciated.

First I took everything over to one side, so.. 2t^3-5t+11t^2
then set it to zero 2t^3-5t+11t^2=0
then didivded by t..so t(2t^2-5+11t)

Then I tried multiplying 11 by 2 which =22
but 22 and 5 don't factor.Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Hello and welcome to MHB! :D

I edited your post to include the problem statement...it is okay to put the problem in the title, but we ask that you also include it in your post as well for clarity.

We are given to solve:

$$2t^3=5t-11t^2$$

I would arrange it in standard form (descending exponents) as:

$$2t^3+11t^2-5t=0$$

Factor out the $t$:

$$t\left(2t^2+11t-5 \right)=0$$

So, using the zero factor property, we equate each factor in turn to zero:

$$t=0$$

$$2t^2+11t-5=0$$

Now, the linear factor gives us the root $t=0$, but the quadratic factor does not further factor in the conventional sense (check the discriminant and see that it is not a perfect square). How else can we solve quadratics besides factoring?
 
What about doing the quadratic formula would that work? (To further solve it) or no?
 
pita0001 said:
What about doing the quadratic formula would that work? (To further solve it) or no?

Yes, that would work...the quadratic formula is a general formula that works for all quadratics. Another option is completing the square.
 
So

t=-11+- (square root) 161/4that would be my final answer, right?
 
pita0001 said:
So

t=-11+- (square root) 161/4that would be my final answer, right?

If you mean:

t = (-11 ± sqrt(161))/4

Then yes, these are the roots to the quadratic factor. But don't forget you also have t = 0 as the root from the other factor. So, you have the following 3 solutions:

$$t=0,\,\frac{-11\pm\sqrt{161}}{4}$$
 
Where does t=0 come from?
 
pita0001 said:
Where does t=0 come from?

Recall we originally factored the equation as:

$$t\left(2t^2+11t-5 \right)=0$$

So, we need to equate each factor to zero to find all of the roots:

$$t=0$$

$$2t^2+11t-5=0$$

The first equation gives us $$t=0$$ and the second gives us $$t=\frac{-11\pm\sqrt{161}}{4}$$, for a total of 3 solutions.
 
Ah, right!
Gratzi, gratzi!
 

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