Solving a Logarithm Problem with Given Logs: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving a logarithmic expression involving given logarithmic values for x and y. Participants explore the application of logarithmic rules to simplify and solve the expression step-by-step. The context is primarily homework-related, focusing on understanding the manipulation of logarithms.

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  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to apply logarithmic rules to the problem, indicating difficulty with the format of the question.
  • Another participant suggests using specific logarithmic properties, such as the power rule, product rule, and quotient rule.
  • A different participant mentions the identity that log of the base equals one, suggesting its relevance to the problem.
  • One participant claims to have found the solution after several attempts and outlines their steps, arriving at a final value of -14.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the solution and provides a detailed step-by-step breakdown using LaTeX formatting, reinforcing the steps taken to reach the final answer.

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While one participant claims to have solved the problem, there is no explicit consensus on the method used or the clarity of the initial problem. Some participants express confusion, indicating that multiple views on the approach exist.

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Participants highlight the need for clarity in applying logarithmic rules, suggesting that the specific format of the question may not align with their previous experiences. There are unresolved aspects regarding the understanding and application of the logarithmic properties in this context.

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If log[a]x=5 and log[a]y=8, solve:

log[a]((ax2)/(√y))-2

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I am completely lost. I've tried some ways of doing this question but I can't get past the second and third steps. This is one of the last questions in my homework and I do not have a step-by-step solutions manual, only the final answer which would be useless because I will have no idea how to get there. Can someone please give me a step-by-step solution? Please and thanks!
 
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Alaba27 said:
If log[a]x=5 and log[a]y=8, solve:

log[a]((ax2)/(√y))-2

---------

I am completely lost. I've tried some ways of doing this question but I can't get past the second and third steps. This is one of the last questions in my homework and I do not have a step-by-step solutions manual, only the final answer which would be useless because I will have no idea how to get there. Can someone please give me a step-by-step solution? Please and thanks!

Welcome to MHB, Alaba27! :)

There are a couple of calculation rules for logarithms.

In particular:
$$\log_a p^q = q \log_a p \\
\log_a pq = \log_a p + \log_a q \\
\log_a \frac p q = \log_a p - \log_a q \\
\sqrt{p} = p^{1/2}$$
Can you apply those?
 
You might need to use :

$$\log_a a = 1$$
 
I just don't understand how to use those formulas with this kind of the question. None of the other questions in my homework are in that format and it's extremely confusing. This is what it looks like.

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I got the solution! After multiple attempts and help from others I got this:

= (ax2/y1/2)-2
= (a-2[x2]-2)/([y1/2]-2
= (a-2x-4)/(y-1)
= y/a2x4

loga(y/a2x4) = -2[loga(a) + 2loga(x) – 1/2loga(y)]

= -2 -4loga(x) + loga(y)
= -2 – 4(5) + 8
= -2 – 20 + 8
= -14
 
Yes, good work! (Yes)

For the benefit of other students who may read this topic, I will write out a solution method using $\LaTeX$:

If $$\log_a(x)=5$$ and $$\log_a(y)=8$$, find the value of $$\log_a\left(\left(\frac{ax^2}{\sqrt{y}} \right)^{-2} \right)$$.

$$\log_a\left(\left(\frac{ax^2}{\sqrt{y}} \right)^{-2} \right)=-2\log_a\left(\frac{ax^2}{\sqrt{y}} \right)=$$

$$-2\left(\log_a(ax^2)-\log_a(\sqrt{y}) \right)=-2\left(\log_a(a)+\log_a(x^2)-\log_a(y^{\frac{1}{2}}) \right)=$$

$$-2\left(1+2\log_a(x)-\frac{1}{2}\log_a(y) \right)=-2\left(1+2\cdot5-\frac{1}{2}\cdot8 \right)=-2\left(1+10-4 \right)=-2(7)=-14$$
 

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