Solving a Quadratic Equation with Two Variables

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on solving a quadratic equation with two variables, specifically the equation \(4x^2 + 4xy - 6y - 9 = 9\). Participants explore different methods for solving the equation, including completing the square and applying the quadratic formula.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests rewriting the equation in standard form as \(4x^2 + 4yx - 6(y + 3) = 0\) and applying the quadratic formula.
  • Another participant proposes completing the square, leading to the equation \((2x + y)^2 = (y + 3)^2\) and concludes with \(2x + y = |y + 3|\).
  • There is a correction regarding the last line of the completion of the square, where it is noted that it should be \(2x + y = \pm(y + 3)\).
  • One participant questions the handling of the number 9 originally on the right side of the equation, prompting a discussion about potential typos.
  • Another participant mentions the use of a calculator (POLYSMLT on a TI83) as an alternative method for solving the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to solving the equation, with some favoring completing the square and others preferring the quadratic formula. There is no consensus on the final solution or method, and some corrections are made regarding earlier statements.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the handling of constants and the implications of treating \(y\) as a constant in the context of the equation. Additionally, the discussion includes potential typographical errors that may affect the interpretation of the solution steps.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and educators interested in quadratic equations, particularly those involving multiple variables, as well as for individuals seeking different methods of solving such equations.

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Solve for $x$:

$$4x^2 +4xy - 6y - 9 = 9 $$
 
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I would write the equation as a quadratic in x in standard form:

$\displaystyle 4x^2+4yx-(6(y+3))=0$

Now apply the quadratic formula.
 
Completing the square

$ (2x)^2 + 2(2x)y -6y - 9 = 0 $
$ (2x+y)^2 -y^2 -6y - 9 = 0 $
$(2x+y)^2 - (y+3)^2 = 0 $
$(2x+y)^2 = (y+3)^2 $
$ 2x+y = |y+3| $
 
What happened to the 9 originally on the right side?
 
MarkFL said:
What happened to the 9 originally on the right side?

lol typo
 
I've made a few of those in my time! (Tauri)
 
Amer said:
Completing the square

$ (2x)^2 + 2(2x)y -6y - 9 = 0 $
$ (2x+y)^2 -y^2 -6y - 9 = 0 $
$(2x+y)^2 - (y+3)^2 = 0 $
$(2x+y)^2 = (y+3)^2 $
$ 2x+y = |y+3| $

Last line should be:

\(2x+y = \pm(y+3)\)

CB
 
CaptainBlack said:
Last line should be:

\(2x+y = \pm(y+3)\)

CB

what is wrong in my solution ?
 
Amer said:
Solve for x:

$$4x^2 +4xy - 6y - 9 = 9 $$

Amer said:
what is wrong in my solution ?

Since x is the variable and y is considered to be a constant your solution should read

$$|2x+y| = y+3$$

as CB has pointed out.
 
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Or you can use POLYSMLT if you have a TI83
 

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