Solving Activation Energy: How to Calculate Reverse Reaction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the activation energy for a reverse chemical reaction, specifically in the context of a reaction involving carbon monoxide (CO) and nitrogen dioxide (NO2). Participants explore the relationship between activation energy, Gibbs free energy, and the heat of reaction, while seeking clarification on the calculations involved.

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  • One participant seeks help on determining the activation energy for a reverse reaction, indicating a lack of clarity in their resources.
  • Another participant proposes a formula for calculating the activation energy of the reverse reaction based on the Gibbs free energy and the activation energy of the forward reaction.
  • There is a question about whether DeltaG refers to the heat of reaction, with some participants clarifying that it is the Gibbs free energy.
  • A participant shares their calculations for the heat of reaction and expresses confusion about obtaining a negative number for the activation energy of the reverse reaction.
  • Another participant corrects their earlier statement regarding the formula used for calculating activation energy and provides specific Gibbs free energy values for the reactions involved.
  • Participants request further clarification on the steps taken to arrive at the calculated heat of reaction, indicating a need for more detailed explanations.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the calculations and concepts involved. There is no clear consensus on the correct approach to determining the activation energy for the reverse reaction, and multiple viewpoints on the necessity of Gibbs free energy in the calculations are present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific values from textbooks for heats of formation, but there is uncertainty about the application of these values in the context of the activation energy calculations. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the relationship between Gibbs free energy and activation energy.

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Please I need some help. I'm working on a chemistry question and have to determine the activation energy for a reverse reaction. How do you do that? I've looked all over my text and through my notes and cannot find a clear way on how to solve it.
Thanks.
 
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proskier said:
Please I need some help. I'm working on a chemistry question and have to determine the activation energy for a reverse reaction. How do you do that? I've looked all over my text and through my notes and cannot find a clear way on how to solve it.
Thanks.

If the reaction is A --> B and this has a DeltaG(A-->B) and an activation energy E1, then the activation energy E2 of the reverse reaction B --> A is E2 = DeltaG(A-->B) - E1.
 
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Is DeltaG the heat of reaction?
 
deltaG is called the Free Gibbs Energy.
but I don't think we need deltaG here.
 
mysqlpress said:
deltaG is called the Free Gibbs Energy.
but I don't think we need deltaG here.
The issue is not simple. See, e.g., Atkins - Physical Chemistry, par. 27.6.
 
i'm still not getting it... so here's the question:

For the reaction CO + NO2 --> CO2 + NO the activation energy for the forward reaction is 135 kJ/mol of CO reacted.
a) Determine the heat of reaction.
For this I got -379.1 kJ/mol by using the heats of formation from my text and reversed the signs given to the reactants. I'm assuming this is right because I can't find another way to do this.

b) From the data given. and the Delta Hr for the reaction, determine the activation energy (Ea) for the reverse reaction.
This is where I'm stuck. I added the heat of reaction to the 135 kJ/mol given to me and got another negative number. Is this possible?

Thanks for your help!
 
proskier said:
i'm still not getting it... so here's the question:

For the reaction CO + NO2 --> CO2 + NO the activation energy for the forward reaction is 135 kJ/mol of CO reacted.
a) Determine the heat of reaction.
For this I got -379.1 kJ/mol by using the heats of formation from my text and reversed the signs given to the reactants. I'm assuming this is right because I can't find another way to do this.

b) From the data given. and the Delta Hr for the reaction, determine the activation energy (Ea) for the reverse reaction.
This is where I'm stuck. I added the heat of reaction to the 135 kJ/mol given to me and got another negative number. Is this possible?

Thanks for your help!

You are right, I wrote "+" thinking "-". I'm sorry!
The correct equation is:
E2 = DeltaG(A-->B) - E1
I have corrected my previous post.

For the reaction:

CO + NO_2\ \rightarrow\ CO_2 + NO

I get:

\Delta H = -225.91\ kJmol^{-1}\ (Heat\ of\ reaction)

\Delta G = -221.95\ kJmol^{-1}

So, for the reversed reaction:

CO_2 + NO \rightarrow\ CO + NO_2

you would have: 135 + 221.95 = 356.95 kJ/mol as Gibbs free energy of activation, assuming that 135 kJ/mol was the Gibbs free energy of activation of the reversed reaction.
 
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thanks a lot really appreciate it
 
would you possibly be able to show me the steps as to how you received -225.91 as your answer, I tried looking through multiply textbooks and internet sites but I can't seem to find where you got your numbers, greatly appreciate it if you could
 
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would you possibly be able to show me the steps as to how you received -225.91 as your answer, I tried looking through multiply textbooks and internet sites but I can't seem to find where you got your numbers, greatly appreciate it if you could
P.W. Atkins - Physical Chemistry - Fifth Edition:

\Delta H^0_f(CO_2)_g = -393.51\ kJ mol^{-1}

\Delta H^0_f(NO)_g = 90.25\ kJ mol^{-1}

\Delta H^0_f(CO)_g = -110.53\ kJ mol^{-1}

\Delta H^0_f(NO_2)_g = 33.18\ kJ mol^{-1}

So, for the reaction

CO + NO_2\ \rightarrow\ CO_2 + NO

you have:

\Delta H^0_{reaction}\ =\ (-393.51\ +\ 90.25)\ -\ (-110.53\ +\ 33.18)\ =\ -225.91\ kJ mol^{-1}
 

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