Solving Ampere's Law Homework Statement

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The discussion revolves around applying Ampere's Law to a problem involving current loops. Participants are attempting to calculate the magnetic field using the enclosed current and are expressing frustration with the results they are obtaining from their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing the application of Ampere's Law, particularly focusing on the calculation of enclosed current using the right-hand rule. There are attempts to clarify the signs of the currents involved and how they affect the results. Questions are raised about the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of the signs of the currents.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the right-hand rule and the signs of the currents, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer yet.

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Participants are referencing specific values and signs for the currents involved, indicating potential confusion about how to apply these in the context of Ampere's Law. There is mention of a homework study group providing alternative approaches, which may influence the discussion.

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[tex]\int \vec B \cdot d\vecs = \mu i_{enc}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



This should be straight forward. I'm really starting to become frustrated with this textbook.

Amperian Loop 1 encircles both current loops.

[tex]\int \vec B \cdot d\vecs = \mu i_{enc}[/tex]
[tex]\int \vec B \cdot d\vecs = (1.26x10^-6) i_{enc}[/tex]

The enclosed current is *using the right hand rule* +6A and -15A = -9Amps.

1.26x10^-6(-9) = -1.1x10^-5 which is apparently wrong.

What the heck is wrong?
 
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exitwound said:
1.26x10^-6(-9) = 1.1x10^-5 which is apparently wrong.

What the heck is wrong?

Did you remember the minus? :)
 
That's a typo. I actually DID submit -1.1e-5 which is wrong.
 
Yup. I doublechecked. That's what I put in, the negative.
 
From a homework study group on Facebook. Apparently, this gives the right answer:
PART a
find current enclosed: use right hand rule to determine sign. thumb should point in direction of positive current and your other 4 fingers point in direction of the loop.
answer is 4 * pi * 10^-7 * [(-1 * first red number) + (second red number)]

PART b
follow the same right hand rule as in part a
answer is 4 * pi * 10^-7 * [(-2 * first red number) + (-1 * second red number)]

Why do I use both positive 15 and positive 6 in the equation??
 
exitwound said:
Why do I use both positive 15 and positive 6 in the equation??

You don't - notice it says "(-1 * first red number)" which would give a -15
 
It's still not what we computed though. Either you use a negative 15A current, and a positive 6A current and get -9, or you get -21A as they compute. Why would you get -21? Why would you use both negative currents?
 

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