Solving an Integral: ∫(o to ∞) ∫(0 to 5) ∫(0 to 4) 16xy dydxdz

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a triple integral of the form ∫(0 to ∞) ∫(0 to 5) ∫(0 to 4) 16xy dydxdz, with participants exploring the implications of the integration limits and the order of integration. The subject area includes integral calculus and volume calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the order of integration and the appropriate limits for the variable z, questioning whether to set it at infinity or define it based on x and y. Some suggest that the limits of z should depend on the values of x and y, while others explore the concept of integrating over a volume.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly set up the triple integral, with some participants suggesting that the integration should start with z and that its limits should correspond to a function of x and y. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the integrand and the relationship between the variables.

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Participants note that the limits of integration for the variables in a multiple integral typically depend on the other variables, rather than being constant. There is also mention of the need to clarify the boundaries of the volume being integrated.

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∫(o to ∞) ∫(0 to 5) ∫(0 to 4) 16xy dydxdz
Below, I have completed the integrations in order (dydxdyz):

∫dy : 8xy2|(0 to 4) = 128 x

∫dx : 64x2 = 64(25) = 1600

∫dz : 1600z| (o to ∞)

Do I set a limit on the integration dz, or set it at infinite?
 

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hi dwn! :smile:
dwn said:
∫(o to ∞) ∫(0 to 5) ∫(0 to 4) 16xy dydxdz
Below, I have completed the integrations in order (dydxdyz):

∫dy : 8xy2|(0 to 4) = 128 x

∫dx : 64x2 = 64(25) = 1600

∫dz : 1600z| (o to ∞)

Do I set a limit on the integration dz, or set it at infinite?

the limits of z depend on x and y

so you must integrate wrt z first (from 0 to … ? :wink:)
 
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dwn said:

Homework Statement



Image attached of problem.

Homework Equations



Not sure how this applies.

The Attempt at a Solution



∫(o to ∞) ∫(0 to 5) ∫(0 to 4) 16xy dydxdz
Below, I have completed the integrations in order (dydxdyz):

∫dy : 8xy2|(0 to 4) = 128 x

∫dx : 64x2 = 64(25) = 1600

∫dz : 1600z| (o to ∞)

Do I set a limit on the integration dz, or set it at infinite?

If you want to set this up as a triple integral, then since you are trying to find volume, your integrand should be 1. And I would integrate over dz first. And the upper value of z will correspond to its value on the boundary surface. Then integrate over x and y.
 
If I want to set this up as a triple integral? Just out of curiosity...what other method? I am going to calculate this using the triple, but I would like to know for my own selfish reasons.

How do I go about finding ;) ? When you say that it depends on x and y...I can't just make it any constant, can I?
 
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If I want to set this up as a triple integral? Just out of curiosity...what other method? I am going to calculate this using the triple, but I would like to know for my own selfish reasons.

How do I go about finding ;) ? When you say that it depends on x and y...I can't just make it any constant, can I?

You can also find the volume by integrating (height)dxdy. It's not really a different method, you just aren't writing the z integration out explicitly. Same thing. And the limit of z isn't any constant. It's the value of z on the bounding surface as a function of x and y. Don't think too hard about this.
 
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#smackforehead : just set the integral dz from 0 to z...
 
dwn said:
#smackforehead : just set the integral dz from 0 to z...

... means just set the integral dz from z=0 to z=16xy, right?
 
exactly. So does this "thickheaded" thinking go away at some point? :)
 
dwn said:
exactly. So does this "thickheaded" thinking go away at some point? :)

As far as this topic goes it should be going away already. You seem to be pretty clear on how obvious the answer is.
 
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hi dwn! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)

when you perform the first integration (in this case, z) in a triple integral to find a volume,

you are essentially finding the volume of a tall thin square slice of the volume, of sides dx and dy …

its volume obviously is (approximately) dxdy times the height,

ie dxdy times [z(x,y) - zo(x,y)]​

where z = z(x,y) is the equation of the top surface, and z = zo(x,y) is the equation of the bottom surface (in this case, the constant z = 0) :wink:

btw, you will notice that the limits of integration for all variables except the last in a multiple integral will generally not be constants, but will generally depend on the later variables!
 

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