Solving Cart-Cart Collision: Velocities & Momentum

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving two carts with different masses and initial velocities. The original poster presents a scenario where a moving cart collides with a stationary cart, and various questions are posed regarding the velocities and momentum of the carts before and after the collision, particularly from the perspective of a moving observer.

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  • Participants explore the use of momentum conservation principles to determine the post-collision velocities of the carts. There is confusion regarding the application of kinetic energy formulas versus momentum calculations. Some participants question how to correctly apply the conservation of momentum to find the final velocities of the carts.

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The discussion has seen participants attempting to apply different methods to solve for the unknown velocities. While one participant initially expresses confusion and seeks guidance, another later indicates a realization about using conservation of momentum, suggesting some progress in understanding the problem. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach taken.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific methods or assumptions that need to be adhered to in their calculations. There is also mention of an observer moving at a certain speed, which adds complexity to the problem.

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A cart (m1 = 140 kg) is moving to the right along a track at v1i = 24 m/s when it hits a stationary cart (m2 = 300 kg) and rebounds with a speed of v1f = 7 m/s in the opposite direction.

a) With what speed does the 300 kg cart move after the collision?

An observer moves in the same direction as the incoming cart with a speed of 10 m/s.

Using the convention that the positive direction is to the right, what are the following velocities with respect to this observer:
b) v1i,ob =
c) v2i,ob =
d) v1f,ob =
e) v2f,ob =

f) What is the total momentum of the system before the collision as seen by this moving observer?

g) What is the total momentum of the system after the collision as seen by this same observer?

So I thought that I could use 1/2mv^2 to get the momentum of cart 1 before impact, and I got 1/2(140)(24^2)= 40320. And then use 40320=300(v) to solve for be, but that didn't work. Can anyone tell me what I should be doing?




 
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r34racer01 said:
So I thought that I could use 1/2mv^2 to get the momentum of cart 1 before impact, and I got 1/2(140)(24^2)= 40320. And then use 40320=300(v) to solve for be, but that didn't work. Can anyone tell me what I should be doing?

The 140kg cart is moving also after the collision.
 
cristo said:
The 140kg cart is moving also after the collision.

Yes its moving 7m/s after the collision, but I don't get how I can use that to get the 300kg's speed after collision.
 
Never mind I realized we just nee to use conservation of momentum, so you just do (24*140)-(-7*140)/300 = 14.46 = V2f. And I was able to solve for everything else so thanks.
 

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