How Do You Solve for the Mass and Velocity of a Cart in an Elastic Collision?

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The problem involves an elastic collision between two carts on a frictionless air track. The first cart has a known mass and initial speed, while the second cart's mass and final speed are unknown. The discussion centers around applying the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy principles to find the unknowns.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use the conservation of momentum to express the mass of the second cart in terms of its final velocity, but encounters difficulty due to having two unknowns. Some participants suggest looking for a second equation related to the conservation of kinetic energy in elastic collisions.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between momentum and kinetic energy in elastic collisions. Guidance has been provided on how to derive a second equation to solve for the unknowns, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The problem presents a scenario with two unknowns and emphasizes the need for additional equations to resolve the situation. The term "elastic collision" is highlighted as a key concept that may require further exploration.

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Homework Statement


A cart with mass 340 g moving on a frictionless linear air track at an initial speed of 1.2 m/s undergoes an elastic collision with an initially stationary cart of unknown mass. After the collision, the first cart continues in its original direction at 0.66 m/s.
(a) What is the mass of the second cart?
(b) What is its speed after impact?
(c) What is the speed of the two-cart center of mass?


Homework Equations


I'll use this space to organize variables:
m1 = 0.34 [kg]
v1i = 1.2 [m/s]
v1f = 0.66 [m/s]


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay using the Conservation of Momentum model, I have:

m1v1i = m1v1f + m2v2f

So in order to find the mass of the second cart, I have:

(m1(v1i - v1f))/v2f = m2

And now I'm stuck because I don't have the final velocity of the second cart in order to compute its mass.
 
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Welcome to PF, Palerider.
You are in a common situation - two unknowns and only one equation.
You must find a second equation before you can solve for the two unknowns. The word "elastic" in the question is your clue. If you don't know what it means, look it up! "elastic collision" in Wikipedia will likely work.
 
Thank you for the welcome.
Okay so an elastic collision means that K is conserved throughout the collision.

Therefore:
(.5)m1v1i2 = (.5)m1v1f2 + (.5)m2v2f2

But that leaves me in the same situation as before doesn't it?
 
Looks good. Now you have two equations with two unknowns. You should be able to solve for both the unknown mass and unknown final velocity. Solve the simpler equation for m2, then sub that into the other equation.
 

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