Solving Clay Collision: Final Speed & Swing Height

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving an inelastic collision between two lumps of clay. A 2kg lump traveling at 20m/s collides with a stationary 5kg lump, resulting in a combined mass of 7kg. The correct method to find the final speed after the collision is to apply the conservation of momentum rather than energy conservation, leading to a final speed of 10.69m/s. The height the clay swings post-collision is calculated to be 5.825m, but the teacher's answer of 1.66m indicates a need for clarification on the correct approach.

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Homework Statement



A 2kg. lump of clay traveling at a speed of 20m/s collides with and sticks to a 5kg. lump of clay initially at rest and hanging from a string. Find the final speed of the new lump of clay. How high will the clay swing after the collision?

(initial)
m1=2kg.
v1=20m/s

(final)
m2=2kg.+5kg.=7kg.
v2=?

Homework Equations


KEi=PEf

KEi=1/2(m1)(v1)^2

PEf=(m2)(g)(h)

v=(2gh)^1/2

P=mv - I'm pretty sure you don't need this one

The Attempt at a Solution



KEi=PEf
(1/2)(2kg.)(20m/s)^2=(7kg.)(9.81m/s^2)(h)
solve for h=?
h=5.825m

solve for v2=?
v2=(2gh)^1/2
v2=10.69m/s

According to the answer given by my teacher h=1.66m if this is correct please show me how.
 
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lemonlimesoap said:

Homework Statement



A 2kg. lump of clay traveling at a speed of 20m/s collides with and sticks to a 5kg. lump of clay initially at rest and hanging from a string. Find the final speed of the new lump of clay. How high will the clay swing after the collision?

(initial)
m1=2kg.
v1=20m/s

(final)
m2=2kg.+5kg.=7kg.
v2=?

Homework Equations


KEi=PEf

KEi=1/2(m1)(v1)^2

PEf=(m2)(g)(h)

v=(2gh)^1/2

P=mv - I'm pretty sure you don't need this one

The Attempt at a Solution



KEi=PEf
(1/2)(2kg.)(20m/s)^2=(7kg.)(9.81m/s^2)(h)
Here is your error. In an inelastic collision, energy is NOT conserved. Use conservation of momentum to find the velocity of both lumps of clay immediately after the collision and use that rather than "20 m/s".

solve for h=?
h=5.825m

solve for v2=?
v2=(2gh)^1/2
v2=10.69m/s

According to the answer given by my teacher h=1.66m if this is correct please show me how.
 

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