Solving Differential Equation: ln |9/64| = k

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The discussion centers on solving the differential equation dh/dt = -k h^(1/2), leading to the conclusion that k = ln |9/64|. Participants express confusion regarding the application of ln 0 in the context of the equation. The correct approach involves recognizing that the integral of h^(-1/2) follows the standard power rule, rather than the logarithmic exception. The key takeaway is the importance of maintaining clarity in the steps of integration and the implications of using logarithmic functions in differential equations.

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i got k = ln |9/64|

then how can the next step using ln 0 doesn't make sense. what should i do?
 

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kyu said:
i got k = ln |9/64|

then how can the next step using ln 0 doesn't make sense. what should i do?

Please show us your work.
 
Mark44 said:
Please show us your work.

should be wrong but here goes

dh/dt = -k h^(1/2)
1/h^(1/2) = -k dt
ln 9 - ln 64 = k
ln |9/64| = k

ln 0 - ln 64 = ln |9/64| (t-0)
 
kyu said:
should be wrong but here goes

dh/dt = -k h^(1/2)
1/h^(1/2) = -k dt
Where did the dh go?
kyu said:
ln 9 - ln 64 = k
How did you get this (above)?
kyu said:
ln |9/64| = k

ln 0 - ln 64 = ln |9/64| (t-0)
 
kyu said:
should be wrong but here goes

dh/dt = -k h^(1/2)
1/h^(1/2) = -k dt
ln 9 - ln 64 = k
ln |9/64| = k

ln 0 - ln 64 = ln |9/64| (t-0)

The integral of h^{-1/2} is given by the usual rule for powers, \int x^\alpha\,dx = \frac{x^{\alpha + 1}}{\alpha + 1} + C, not the exception \int x^{-1}\,dx = \ln |x| + C.
 
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