MHB Solving equation involving permutation and combination

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation P(n, 3) = 6 C(n, 5). The initial attempt included an error in the equation, which was later corrected. After cross-multiplying and simplifying, the equation leads to n^2 - 7n - 8 = 0. Factoring this gives the solutions n = -1 and n = 8, with only n = 8 being valid in the context of permutations and combinations. The thread emphasizes the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in solving such problems.
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Find n if P(n, 3) = 6 C(n, 5).

My attempt

$\frac{n!}{(n-3)!}=6\frac{n!}{(n-5)5!}$

I don't know how to proceed
 
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NotaMathPerson said:
Find n if P(n, 3) = 6 C(n, 5).

My attempt

$\frac{n!}{(n-3)!}=6\frac{n!}{(n-5)5!}$

I don't know how to proceed

First, you have an error on the right hand side. After you fix that, try dividing both sides by $$n!$$, Think about what a factorial is.
 
NotaMathPerson said:
Find n if P(n, 3) = 6 C(n, 5).

My attempt

$\frac{n!}{(n-3)!}=6\frac{n!}{(n-5)5!}$

I don't know how to proceed
\begin{array}{ccc}\text{We have:} &amp; \dfrac{n!}{(n-3)!}\;=\; 6\dfrac{n!}{(n-5)5!}\\ \\<br /> \text{Cross-multiply:} &amp; 5!\,n!\,(n-5)! \;=\;6\,n!\,(n-3)! \\ \\<br /> \text{Divide by 6n!:} &amp; 20(n-5)! \;=\;(n-3)! \\ \\<br /> \text{We have:} &amp; 20(n-5)! \;=\;(n-3)(n-4)(n-5)! \\ \\<br /> \text{Divide by }(n-5)! &amp; 20 \;=\;(n-3)(n-4) \\ \\<br /> \text{Simplify:} &amp; n^2 - 7n - 8 \;=\;0 \\ \\<br /> \text{Factor:} &amp; (n+1)(n-8) \;=\;0 \\ \\<br /> \text{Solve:} &amp; n=\cancel{-1}.\;8<br /> \end{array}
 
soroban said:
\begin{array}{ccc}\text{We have:} &amp; \dfrac{n!}{(n-3)!}\;=\; 6\dfrac{n!}{(n-5)5!}\\ \\<br /> \text{Cross-multiply:} &amp; 5!\,n!\,(n-5)! \;=\;6\,n!\,(n-3)! \\ \\<br /> \text{Divide by 6n!:} &amp; 20(n-5)! \;=\;(n-3)! \\ \\<br /> \text{We have:} &amp; 20(n-5)! \;=\;(n-3)(n-4)(n-5)! \\ \\<br /> \text{Divide by }(n-5)! &amp; 20 \;=\;(n-3)(n-4) \\ \\<br /> \text{Simplify:} &amp; n^2 - 7n - 8 \;=\;0 \\ \\<br /> \text{Factor:} &amp; (n+1)(n-8) \;=\;0 \\ \\<br /> \text{Solve:} &amp; n=\cancel{-1}.\;8<br /> \end{array}
As http://mathhelpboards.com/members/mrtwhs/ pointed out there is a typo on the first line. It is fixed on the second line.

-Dan
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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