Solving Equilibrium State Problems: Examples & Explanations

  • Thread starter Thread starter Ivan Antunovic
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Equilibrium State
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around solving equilibrium state problems, with users seeking clarification on their calculations and the angles between forces. A participant initially struggled with achieving correct answers for examples a), b), and c) but later confirmed they found the right solutions after receiving guidance. There was confusion regarding the angle between forces Fb and Fby, with suggestions that the problem's clarity could be improved by specifying conditions like a frictionless plane. Further, participants discussed the need for clear diagrams and precise language to facilitate understanding and problem-solving. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of clear problem statements and effective communication in solving equilibrium problems.
Ivan Antunovic
Messages
109
Reaction score
4
Member advised to use the homework template!
Problems stated in attached pictures.So could someone explain me what am I doing wrong here this is solution for the example a) .
I tried it twice and I am getting wrong results.

Thanks in advance.
 

Attachments

  • STATIKA.jpg
    STATIKA.jpg
    32.1 KB · Views: 414
  • DSC_0667.JPG
    DSC_0667.JPG
    26.5 KB · Views: 351
Physics news on Phys.org
Sorry for the 2nd picture in my first post,hope it's not rotated this time.
 

Attachments

  • DSC_0667.JPG
    DSC_0667.JPG
    15.7 KB · Views: 362
To get the given answers in the first question, you would need to use a=4 and b=6, or something equivalent.
 
haruspex said:
To get the given answers in the first question, you would need to use a=4 and b=6, or something equivalent.

First of all thank you for replay.

Thank you man so much.I was really confused whole Sunday trying to figure out if I was doing something wrong. Now I've gotten correct answers for both cases a) ,b) and c).

I have one more question.I took intuitively an angle between Forces Fb and Fby to be 45 degrees but I am trying to figure it out mathematically.
DSC_0678.jpg

images upload
 
Ivan Antunovic said:
First of all thank you for replay.

Thank you man so much.I was really confused whole Sunday trying to figure out if I was doing something wrong. Now I've gotten correct answers for both cases a) ,b) and c).

I have one more question.I took intuitively an angle between Forces Fb and Fby to be 45 degrees in c) example but I am trying to figure it out mathematically.
DSC_0678.jpg

images upload
 
Ivan Antunovic said:
First of all thank you for replay.

Thank you man so much.I was really confused whole Sunday trying to figure out if I was doing something wrong. Now I've gotten correct answers for both cases a) ,b) and c).

I have one more question.I took intuitively an angle between Forces Fb and Fby to be 45 degrees but I am trying to figure it out mathematically.
DSC_0678.jpg

http://postimage.org/
I assume this is in relation to c.
The question as given is not clear enough to obtain an answer. It would be better if it showed B as a flat plane at 45 degrees, stated to be frictionless. In that case you would deduce that the normal force is also at 45 degrees to the vertical.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
haruspex said:
I assume this is in relation to c.
The question as given is not clear enough to obtain an answer. It would be better if it showed B as a flat plane at 45 degrees, stated to be frictionless. In that case you would deduce that the normal force is also at 45 degrees to the vertical.
Yes I was talking about c example.
There is actually no way to find Fa x and Fbx unless assuming that the angle is 45 degrees,since both of those forces go through point A and B so their torque is zero at those points.
 
I have one more question if you could check if I was doing everything fine in this task.Text goes:

The tops of an equilateral triangular plate , where the side length is a = 100 mm and where forces are operating which are F1 = F2 = F3 = 2 kN and torque M = 0.1 kNm .
Thickness and weight plates ignore . Reduce the set and force a default torque M at point A.

DSC_0681.jpg

http://postimage.org/

DSC_0682.jpg

http://postimage.org/app.php

thank you again for your answer
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ivan Antunovic said:
The tops of an equilateral triangular plate , where the side length is a = 100 mm and where forces are operating which are F1 = F2 = F3 = 2 kN and torque M = 0.1 kNm .
Thickness and weight plates ignore . Reduce the set and force a default torque M at point A.
I take it from your diagram that the three forces are all in the plane of the plate and act as shown. But I don't understand the last sentence. What does it mean? Is that the exact wording?
 
  • #10
I tried to translate it well from my language,but google translate failed this time so I will try to explainit,it is required to translate all forces and given torque at point A
 
  • #11
Ivan Antunovic said:
I tried to translate it well from my language,but google translate failed this time so I will try to explainit,it is required to translate all forces and given torque at point A
The three forces are each directed along a side of the triangle from their points of application, yes? Rather than leap into converting each force into X and Y components, think about the line of action of F3 and what that implies for its moment about A.

By the way, your images are not easy to read. The writing is a little faint, and I see your shadow on them. It is much easier for others if you take the trouble to type your working in. In particular, it makes it much easier to quote and draw attention to specific lines of algebra. The ability to upload images is really for textbook extracts and diagrams.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
944
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
916
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K