Solving Exercise: Proving Continuity of a Function at 1

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The discussion revolves around proving the continuity of a function at a specific point, specifically at \( x = 1 \), given the condition \( |f(x) - f(1)| \leq (x - 1)^2 \) for all \( x \). Participants explore various approaches to demonstrate continuity using limits and properties discussed in class, while avoiding derivative techniques.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Bueno expresses confusion about proving continuity and initially proposes a choice of \( \delta = \epsilon/2(x-1)^2 \), but questions the validity of this approach.
  • Another participant suggests that using the limit definition leads to the conclusion that the derivative at \( x = 1 \) exists and is zero, implying continuity, but Bueno clarifies that derivative techniques are not allowed.
  • Bueno later considers choosing \( \delta = \sqrt{\epsilon} \) and finds it effective, but seeks further clarification on how to make the choice of \( \delta \) clearer.
  • Participants discuss the lack of a fixed set of rules for such problems, with one suggesting that the logical structure for proving limits is similar to that for proving continuity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a fixed method for choosing \( \delta \) in continuity proofs, and participants express differing views on the clarity and manipulation of these choices. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a definitive approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their approaches, particularly regarding the use of derivative techniques and the need for clarity in choosing \( \delta \). The discussion reflects a reliance on properties of limits rather than established rules for continuity proofs.

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Hello everyone!

I'm having some trouble to solve the following exercise:

Supposing that $$|f(x) - f(1)|≤ (x - 1)^2$$ for every $$x $$.
Show that $$f$$ is continuous at $$ 1$$

(Sorry if the text seems a bit weird, but it's because I'm still getting used to translate all these math-related terms to english.)

I know that if f is continuous at 1, the following will be truth:
$$
0<|x-1|< \delta$$ $$⇒$$ $$|f(x) - f(1)| < \epsilon$$

I thought of choosing $$\delta = \epsilon/2(x-1)^2$$, then I would find that $$|f(x) - f(1)| < \epsilon/2 < \epsilon$$

But, as far as I know, choosing a $$\delta$$ that depends on $$x$$ is wrong.
I really don't know what to do.

Thank you,

Bueno.
 
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Bueno said:
Hello everyone!

I'm having some trouble to solve the following exercise:

Supposing that $$|f(x) - f(1)|≤ (x - 1)^2$$ for every $$x $$.
Show that $$f$$ is continuous at $$ 1$$

(Sorry if the text seems a bit weird, but it's because I'm still getting used to translate all these math-related terms to english.)

I know that if f is continuous at 1, the following will be truth:
$$
0<|x-1|< \delta$$ $$⇒$$ $$|f(x) - f(1)| < \epsilon$$

I thought of choosing $$\delta = \epsilon/2(x-1)^2$$, then I would find that $$|f(x) - f(1)| < \epsilon/2 < \epsilon$$

But, as far as I know, choosing a $$\delta$$ that depends on $$x$$ is wrong.
I really don't know what to do.

Thank you,

Bueno.

On the basis of your hypothesis is... $\displaystyle |\frac{f(x)-f(1)}{x-1}| \le |x-1| \implies \lim_{x \rightarrow 1} \frac{f(x)-f(1)}{x-1} = 0$ (1)... so that the derivative $\displaystyle f^{\ '}(x)$ in x=1 exists and is $\displaystyle f^{\ '} (1)=0$. That means that in x=1 f(x) must be continous... Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
The main problem is I can't use derivative techniques to solve this problem. The professor only talked about limits and their properties in class, and he'd like we figure out how to prove this only using these tools.

Thank you,

Bueno
 
Bueno said:
The main problem is I can't use derivative techniques to solve this problem. The professor only talked about limits and their properties in class, and he'd like we figure out how to prove this only using these tools.

Thank you,

Bueno

In that case choose $\delta=\sqrt{\epsilon}$: $$|x-1|<\delta\Rightarrow |x-1|^2<\epsilon\Rightarrow \left|f(x)-f(1)\right|<\epsilon$$
 
Fernando Revilla said:
In that case choose $\delta=\sqrt{\epsilon}$: $$|x-1|<\delta\Rightarrow |x-1|^2<\epsilon\Rightarrow \left|f(x)-f(1)\right|<\epsilon$$

That seems to work, thank you!

But I have to say I'm a bit confused by this kind of proof.
Choosing an appropriate value for delta seems to do the work, but is there any kind of manipulation or technique I can do to make the value I have do choose become more clear?

Thank you,

Bueno
 
Bueno said:
but is there any kind of manipulation or technique I can do to make the value I have do choose become more clear?

Unfortunately, there is no fixed set of rules for this kind of problems.
 
Fernando Revilla said:
Unfortunately, there is no fixed set of rules for this kind of problems.

Well, there might be, actually. Check http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f49/method-proving-some-non-linear-limits-4149/ out. I realize it's about proving limits, not continuity. But really, the definitions are so similar that instead of $L$ you could just say $f(1)$ (in your case), and you can change the appropriate inequalities not to be strict, and I think you'd have the same logical structure.
 
Ackbach said:
Well, there might be, actually. Check http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f49/method-proving-some-non-linear-limits-4149/ out.

No problem, we have not yet agreed what we mean by fixed set of rules. By the way, an excellemt post.
 

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