Solving Exponential Equations: Homework Statement & Solution

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The discussion revolves around solving exponential equations, specifically two equations involving powers of 2 and 4. Participants are examining the algebraic manipulations and substitutions necessary to approach these problems.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various algebraic techniques, including the use of substitutions like u=2^x to transform the equations into quadratic forms. There are questions about the validity of certain algebraic steps and the implications of errors in calculations.

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There is an ongoing examination of the original poster's attempts, with some participants providing corrective feedback on algebraic errors. The discussion includes suggestions for alternative approaches and emphasizes the importance of foundational algebra skills.

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Participants note that there may be misunderstandings regarding the manipulation of logarithmic and exponential expressions, and there is a mention of a negative discriminant indicating no real solutions for one of the equations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their algebraic skills in light of the feedback received.

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Homework Statement


Solve the exponential equation.
1. (22x)+(2x) - 12 = 0
2. 3 * 4x + 4 * 2x + 8 = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution


1. 2x ln 2 + x ln 2 = ln 12
x(2 ln 2 + ln 2)= ln 12
x=( ln 12) / (2 ln 4).
I'm thinking I'm factoring out the X wrong.

2. 12 ( 4x * 2x = -8
4x * 2x = -2/3
x (ln 8 ) = -2/3
x = (-2/3) / (ln 8)
The back of the book says there is no real solution. Why? Let's say it was a real solution. Did i solve the problem correctly?

Thanks for the help.
-Scrythe
 
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You are doing some unorthodox, i.e. wrong, algebra there. It's not true that ln(2^(2x)+2^x)=ln(2^(2x))+ln(2^x) or that 3*4^x+4*2^x=12*(4^x*2^x). The way to solve the first one is to notice that if you put u=2^x then 2^(2x)=u^2. So the equation turns into a quadratic u^2+u-12=0. Solve the quadratic and then figure out x from u. Can you turn the second one into a quadratic as well? Oh, and practice your algebra!
 
You have algebra mistakes on almost every single line of your work.
For problem 1, you have
2x ln 2 + x ln 2 = ln 12
x(2 ln 2 + ln 2)= ln 12
x=( ln 12) / (2 ln 4).
As Dick already commented, your first equation is incorrect. The second equation has no error in it. The third equation has an error, because 2 ln 2 + ln 2 != 2 ln 4.
2 ln 2 + ln 2 = 3 ln 2 = ln 2^3 = ln 8.

Your work in problem 2 also has some errors.
12 ( 4x * 2x = -8
4x * 2x = -2/3
x (ln 8 ) = -2/3
x = (-2/3) / (ln 8)
Dick already pointed out the error in your first equation above. Going from your first equation to the next, no errors. In the third equation, the error is that 4x * 2x = 8x^2, which is not at all equal to x ln 8.

Your basic algebra skills are killing your ability to work with more complicated concepts, such as logarithms and exponents. For each of the mistakes that Dick and I pointed out, you should go back and review those topics to make sure that you really understand them. If you don't do that, you're going to have a very tough time with the current topics you're studying.


equivalent to the first equation, so no mistake.
The first line above
 
it was (4^x) * (2^x) not 4x * 2x, but nevertheless i was able to find that there was no solution because the discriminant was negative.
(12^1+x) + (8^1+x)
(u^2) + u + 8 = 0
(b^2) - 4ac = 1 - 32 = no real solution.

i was also able to solve the first one. ( though i won't post my work). I realize i am no expert in algebra, but i have not had troubles until this section. I will look back at the algebra techniques.

thanks again,
Scrythe
 
Sorry, I just copied your work, and the superscripts got lost in the copy.

For the second problem, your answer is correct, but your work isn't. The original equation is 3*4x + 4*2x + 8 = 0
If you make the substitution u = 2x, the equation becomes 3u2 + 4u + 8 = 0. This is quite different from what you posted, which was u2 + u + 8 = 0.

I have no idea of where you got this:
(12^1+x) + (8^1+x)
 
Ok that makes sense. I did 3 * 4^x = 12 ^(1+x) and 4 * 2^x = 8^(1+x), which i now realize is incorrect.
 
And that's what we mean by going back over those old topics. As you go further with mathematics, if you don't have the basic stuff down cold, you'll spend all of your time making mechanical errors and won't have a prayer at understanding the higher-level concepts.
 
And why don't you substitute y=2x and solve the quadratic equation?
 

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