Solving for a: A Constant Value Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving for a constant value "a" in a series of equations that relate "a" to "x" through various divisions. Participants explore the nature of the equations, potential solutions, and the validity of different approaches to the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that "a" is constant and presents a series of equations involving "a" and "x".
  • Another participant questions the existence of a solution, suggesting that simultaneous solutions to any two equations will not satisfy the others.
  • A participant raises the possibility that the problem may involve modulus arithmetic.
  • One participant claims to have found a solution using Microsoft Excel, providing a numerical answer without detailing the method.
  • Another participant proposes a formula for "a" as a function of "n", suggesting that the original poster may have overlooked something.
  • Some participants challenge earlier claims, insisting on the correct formulation of the equations and providing a detailed explanation involving the Chinese remainder theorem.
  • A numerical value of 2519 is mentioned multiple times, with some participants discussing its relationship to the problem and its derivation from the equations.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the modulus aspect of the problem, indicating a need for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of a solution or the correct approach to the problem. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of the equations and the conditions under which solutions may exist. The discussion includes various interpretations of the equations and their implications.

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answer = "a" is constant
a / 9 = x + 8
a / 8 = x + 7
a / 7 = x + 6
a / 6 = x + 5
a / 5 = x + 4
a / 4 = x + 3
a / 3 = x + 2
a / 2 = x + 1


a = ?
 
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Why do you think there's a solution? There isn't one.

Pick any two of the equations and solve them simultaneously for [itex]a, x[/itex]. You will have a unique solution. Plug that solution into any other equation and see if it works (it won't).
 
is this a modulus question?
 
i got it by microsoft excel if you can't fint it answer is 254+254+1245+766
 
I got [tex]a=-n(n+1)[/tex] perhaps he missed something...

[tex]\frac{a}{n}=x+(n-1)[/tex]
 
yes that is wrong
answer = "a" is constant
a / 9 = x9 + 8
a / 8 = x8 + 7
a / 7 = x7 + 6
a / 6 = x6 + 5
a / 5 = x5 + 4
a / 4 = x4 + 3
a / 3 = x3 + 2
a / 2 = x2 + 1

a = ? a = 2519
i don't know how to explain
 
2519 strikes a bell, it is close to 1/2 7!, which should help you find the answer.
 
jalaldn said:
yes that is wrong
answer = "a" is constant
a / 9 = x9 + 8
a / 8 = x8 + 7
a / 7 = x7 + 6
a / 6 = x6 + 5
a / 5 = x5 + 4
a / 4 = x4 + 3
a / 3 = x3 + 2
a / 2 = x2 + 1

a = ? a = 2519
i don't know how to explain
You've still written that completely wrong. You must mean:
a= 9x1+ 8
a= 8x2+ 7
a= 7x3 + 6
a= 6x4 + 5
a= 5x5 + 4
a= 4x6 + 3
a= 3x7 + 2
a= 2x8 + 1
where the "x"s are all (possibly different) integers.

That's a "Chinese remainder theorem" problem and can also be stated as
a= 8 (mod 9)
a= 7 (mod 8)
a= 6 (mod 7)
a= 5 (mod 6)
a= 4 (mod 5)
a= 3 (mod 4)
a= 2 (mod 3)
a= 1 (mod 2)

The smallest number divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 is 9*8*7*5= 2520 (using the highest power of each prime).
2519 is one less than that: 2519= 2520-1 so 2519= 9(280)- 1= 9(279)+ 9- 1= 9(279)+ 8. 2519= 8(315)- 1= 8(314)+ 8- 1= 8(314)+ 7, etc.
 
Ah.."Hallsoftivy" but the problem with "mod" isn't the same posted above..i will try this last one that seems to be clearer...good luck.
 

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