Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around manually deriving the power series for the hyperbolic cotangent function, coth(x), and exploring various methods to achieve this without relying on computational tools like Mathematica. Participants discuss different approaches, including series expansions, derivatives, and polynomial reciprocation, while addressing challenges such as singularities and the need for clever techniques.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses a desire to manually derive a series for coth(x) and mentions difficulties with singularities when using the Maclaurin series.
- Another participant suggests using derivatives to find the series for coth(x), providing a detailed derivative calculation that leads to a series expansion involving the Binomial series.
- A different participant describes the full problem of expanding P(x) = c(cosh(x)/sinh(x) - 1/x) and shares a series obtained from Mathematica, noting the cancellation of the 1/x term.
- One participant introduces the idea that the power series expansion of coth(x) involves Bernoulli numbers and references a formula without detailing its derivation.
- Another participant mentions finding a method to expand coth(x) using power series for cosh and sinh without long division, expressing interest in understanding the technique of reciprocating a polynomial.
- Several participants inquire about general formulas for reciprocating polynomials and discuss the complexity of deriving higher power coefficients.
- A participant reflects on the challenges of deriving a general formula for polynomial reciprocation and acknowledges the utility of Mathematica for such tasks.
- One participant notes that in practice, approximations can often suffice for certain series expansions.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express various methods and challenges without reaching a consensus on a single approach to derive the series for coth(x). Multiple competing views and techniques remain, with no definitive resolution to the discussion.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight limitations in their approaches, including singularities in series expansions and the complexity of deriving higher-order coefficients in polynomial reciprocation. Some methods rely on specific assumptions or definitions that may not be universally applicable.