Solving for Sound Intensity: How Far Away is 75 dB? [SOLVED]

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The problem involves determining the distance from a point source where the sound intensity level decreases from 95 dB to 75 dB, given the intensity level at a specific distance. The subject area is acoustics, specifically focusing on sound intensity and decibel levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the decibel formula and the intensity equation but expresses confusion about their application. Some participants suggest an alternative approach by focusing on the difference in decibel levels rather than calculating power. Others explore the relationship between distances and intensity ratios.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different methods and clarifying concepts. There is a recognition of the potential for misunderstanding in the original approach, and some guidance has been provided regarding simplifying calculations by eliminating constants.

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The original poster notes that their teacher did not cover the relevant lesson, which may contribute to their uncertainty in applying the formulas correctly. There is also a mention of a deleted post, which may have contained additional context or attempts.

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[SOLVED] Sound Intensity Please help!

Homework Statement


The sound intensity level 5.0m from a point source is 95 dB. At what distance will it be 75 dB?


Homework Equations


dB = 10log(I/Io)
I = P/4*pi*r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I honestly don't know what to do with this problem. I started out by plugging 5.0m and 95 dB into the equation >>

dB = 10log((P/4*pi*r^2)/Io)
>> 95 = 10log((P/4*pi*25)/1*10^-12)
>> 95 =10log(P/4*pi*25)-10log(1*10^-12)
>> 95 + 10log(1*10^-12) = 10log(P/4*pi*25)
>> -25 = 10log(P)-10log(4*pi*25)
>> -25+10log(4*pi*25) = 10log(P)
>> -.0307 = 10log(P)
>> -.00307 = log(P)
>> P = 10^-.00307

After that, I used the P that I found in the equation >>

75 = 10log((10^-.00307/4*pi*r^2)/1*10^-12)
>> 75 + 10log(1*10^-12)=10log(10^-.00307/4*pi*r^2)
>> -45 = 10log(10^-.00307)-10log(4*pi*r^2)
>> -44.95 =-10log(4*pi)+10log(r^2)
>> -33.96 = 10log(r^2)
>> -3.39 = log(r^2)
>> r^2 = 10^-3.39
>> r = .0200

This doesn't make any sense at all, but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Our physics teacher didn't teach us the lesson on this. He just gave us a bunch of formulas and told us to figure it out. Am I using the wrong formulas, or am I making a stupid math error? Please help!
 
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r=50m
95=10log(I/Io)
75=10log(I'/Io)
20=10log(I/I') - log properties
2=log(I/I')
100=I/I'
I=100I'
I/I' = r^2/R^2
100=r^2/25
r= 50

in fact 10dB = 10 times , 20dB = 10^2 times.
=.= my unlucky day
always got mistakes, haha~
 
Thank you so much for your help!

So... let me see if I understand this...
Instead of solving for P, you get the difference between the decibels and solve for r using the first distance given (R=5). Is that right?
 
Shiina-kun said:
Thank you so much for your help!

So... let me see if I understand this...
Instead of solving for P, you get the difference between the decibels and solve for r using the first distance given (R=5). Is that right?
Yes, that's.:wink:
A better approach is to "delete" as much "constants" as possible,
it makes the calculation easier..
 
er... one more question...

would I add 25 to 50? r=50, which equals the difference between the two distances, right?
 
Shiina-kun said:
er... one more question...

would I add 25 to 50? r=50, which equals the difference between the two distances, right?

No

at distance = 5m 95dB
at distance = 50m 75dB
difference between two distance =50-5 = 45m
 
Oh! I get it now! Thank you! ^^
 

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