Solving for Velocity After Two Objects Collide

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In a collision between a 5kg mass moving at 20m/s and a stationary 10kg mass, the key principle is the conservation of momentum, not energy. The initial momentum of the system is calculated as the product of mass and velocity, leading to a total momentum before the collision. After the collision, since the 5kg mass comes to rest, the momentum must be transferred to the 10kg mass. By applying the conservation of momentum formula, the velocity of the 10kg mass can be determined. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using momentum conservation to solve collision problems accurately.
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Homework Statement


A 5kg mass moving at 20m/s collides with a stationary 10kg mass. If the 5kg mass comes to rest, how fast will the 10kg mass be moving?

M1 = 5kg
M2 = 10kg
V1 = 20m/s

Homework Equations


KE = 1/2mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


I am fairly confident in this, and that's what scares me. Can it really be so simple as a transference of energy? The 5kg mass has KE of approximately 1,000J. When it hits the other mass, the kinetic energy of the 10kg block would also be 1,000J. Then to find the velocity, I would take those 1,000J, divide them by 10, and multiply by 2, giving me 200, then I'd take the square root of that, giving me a new velocity of 14.14m/s...Is it possible I got this correct?
 
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EthanVandals said:
Can it really be so simple as a transference of energy?
No. What is always conserved in a collision? Hint: It is not energy.
 
kuruman said:
No. What is always conserved in a collision? Hint: It is not energy.
My first guess would be momentum, but I am not quite sure how that would come into play here...Unless you're saying that it would also be moving at 20m/s...
 
EthanVandals said:
My first guess would be momentum, ...
No need to guess. Momentum is always conserved in a collision. Energy may or may not be conserved.
EthanVandals said:
Unless you're saying that it would also be moving at 20m/s...
What do you think is "it" that should also be moving at 20 m/s?

Momentum conservation simply means that if you add all the momenta before the collision to get pbefore and then add all the momenta after the collision to get pafter, then pbefore = pafter.

Apply this simple idea here.
 
kuruman said:
No need to guess. Momentum is always conserved in a collision. Energy may or may not be conserved.

What do you think is "it" that should also be moving at 20 m/s?

Momentum conservation simply means that if you add all the momenta before the collision to get pbefore and then add all the momenta after the collision to get pafter, then pbefore = pafter.

Apply this simple idea here.
Then the second box (the 10kg one) based on the before and after equaling each other should also move at 20m/s when it is hit by the smaller mass?
 
EthanVandals said:
Then the second box (the 10kg one) based on the before and after equaling each other should also move at 20m/s when it is hit by the smaller mass?
I don't see why you're guessing. Why not compute the value of the momentum and check?
 
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