Solving fourth order differential equation ( )

In summary, the conversation is about solving a fourth order differential equation with initial and terminal conditions. The equations given are x1''(t) = 8 x2(t) and x2''(t) = 2 x1(t). The suggestion is to use the Laplace transform or assume a solution of the form x1(t) = c1 e^(at) + c2 e^(-at) + c3 sin(at) + c4 cos(at). The correct value for "a" is found to be 2. The conversation also discusses finding the second order differential for x1 and suggests using the eigenvalue-eigenvector equation.
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Solving fourth order differential equation (URGENT)

I have two second order differential equation which needs to be solved.

x1''(t) = 8 x2(t)
x2''(t) = 2 x1(t)

I have the initial conditions, x1(0) = 0, x2(0) = 1, and terminal conditions x1(pi/4) = 1, x2(pi/4) = 0.

Can anyone help me solve these equations?? What I did was to write the equations in terms of x1 and x2 respectively, but that gives me a fourth order differential

x1''''(t) = 16 x1(t)
x2''''(t) = 16 x2(t)

and I do not know how to solve for these. Can anyone help please??
 
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You know that the exponential, sine and cosine return to their original form after differentiating them four times. So try a solution of the form [itex]c_1 e^{a t}+c_2 e^{-at}+c_3 \sin(at)+c_4 \cos(at)[/itex].
 
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So the solution would be
x1(t) = c1 e^(16t) + c2 e^-(16t) + c3 sin(16t) + c4 cos(16t)??
 
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No you found the wrong a. Differentiating e^16t 4 times would give 16^4 e^16t, which is not a solution.
 
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would a = 4 be the correct solution??
 
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I am not sure why you have to ask. Take the derivative of your function with a=4 , four times and you will see that it is not the correct solution.
 
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I am sorry, I was taking the second dervivative for some reason. I conclude that a = 2 would be thr right solution. Am I correct??
 
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Yes that's correct.
 
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In order to solve for c1,c2,c3 and c4, I would need the second differential of x1. Would that be x1'' = c1 e^4t +c2 e^-4t ??
 
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sasikanth said:
I have two second order differential equation which needs to be solved.

x1''(t) = 8 x2(t)
x2''(t) = 2 x1(t)

Your equations are linear with constant coefficients. I would handle either the following ways

1. Apply the Laplace transform to the equations - this will transform the problem to solving algebraic system of equations or

2. Let the solution be x1(t)=q1ert and x2(t)=q2ert . Substitute this assumption and you can determine r, q1 and q2 from eigenvalue-eigenvector equation.
 
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I got the solution to the equation using the fourth order differntial, but am stuck wolving for the constants c1,c2,c3,c4. If I wanted the second order differntail for x1, would that be x1'' = c1 e^4t +c2 e^-4t ??
 

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