Solving Galois Group Problem Q7: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific problem related to Galois groups, particularly focusing on the properties of automorphisms and embeddings in the context of Galois Theory. Participants explore the implications of these concepts for a problem involving determinants and permutations.

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  • One participant presents a derivation involving the determinant of a matrix and expresses uncertainty about the significance of M in the context of Galois Theory.
  • Another participant clarifies that the embeddings \(\sigma_i\) are indeed the embeddings of K into C and notes that they are also embeddings into M, which are permuted by the Galois group of M/Q.
  • A further response questions the implication that the Galois group permutes the embeddings of K, seeking clarification on this point.
  • Another participant explains that since each embedding is a homomorphism from K to C, and elements of the Galois group act as homomorphisms from M to M, the composition results in new embeddings of K into M.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between the Galois group and the embeddings of K, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these relationships.

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There is an underlying complexity regarding the definitions and properties of normal fields, separability, and the nature of embeddings that may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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I am trying to solve question 7 on this problem sheet. This is my progress so far:

Using the Leibniz formula for the determinant of a matrix I deduce that

[tex]\det(\Omega) = \sum_{\tau \in S_n} sign(\tau) \prod_{i = 1}^n \sigma_i (w_{\tau(i)})[/tex]Hence [tex]P + N = \sum_{\tau \in S_n}\prod_{i = 1}^n \sigma_i (w_{\tau(i)})[/tex]

and [tex]PN = (\sum_{\tau \in A_n}\prod_{i = 1}^n \sigma_i (w_{\tau(i)}))\cdot (\sum_{\tau \in S_n \setminus A_n}\prod_{i = 1}^n \sigma_i (w_{\tau(i)}))[/tex]

[tex]= \sum_{\tau \in S_n; \pi \in S_n \setminus A_n}\prod_{i = 1}^n \sigma_i (w_{\tau(i)}w_{\pi(i)})[/tex]

Having not done a formal course in Galois Theory, I'm a bit unsure about the significance of M here. I realize that Aut(M/Q) can only be called Gal(M/Q) if M:Q is normal (implied by it's being a splitting field) and separable (automatic in C).

So Gal(M/Q) is a the group of automorphisms of M that fix Q and thus due to the Galois Correspondence, the subgroup of Gal(M/Q) of elements that fix K corresponds uniquely to K and vice versa. I don't quite see how this helps here though.

Since

[tex]Aut(K/Q) = \{\sigma_1 , \ldots , \sigma_n \}[/tex]

I see that applying any of these to the above expressions would leave them invariant, but what I don't see is why they are invariant under Gal(M/Q). After all M seems to be arbitrary.
 

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Hello Kitty said:
[tex]Aut(K/Q) = \{\sigma_1 , \ldots , \sigma_n \}[/tex]

No, I don't think that's right. I think that [itex]\sigma_i[/itex] are the embeddings of K into C. Note that, as M is normal and contains K, they are also embeddings into M and are permuted by applying the elements of the Galois group of M/Q. The question can then be approached by considering what happens to P and N under even and odd permutations.
 
OK thanks. Yeah the \sigma 's are the embeddings of K. The only thing about what you say that doesn't make sense to me is the bit about them being permuted by the elements of the Galois group of M/Q. The elements of this group permute the Q-automorphisms of M by definition, but I don't see how this implies that they permute the embeddings of K.
 
each embedding sigma is a homorphism K->C, whose image will in fact be in M, so can be regarded as a homomorphism K->M. An element g of the Galois group of M/Q is a homomorphism M->M. So, by composition, [itex]g\sigma:K->M[/itex] which is just another embedding of K into M (and therefore, into C).
 
Thanks - excellently explained!
 

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