Solving Gauss's Law Problem 1: Electric Field for r=3Rsub2

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss's Law to determine the electric field generated by a thick spherical shell with a variable charge density. The specific case being analyzed is for a radius of r=3Rsub2, where the charge density is given as ρ=C/r^3.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the excess charge of the shell and the integration process required to find it. There are questions about how to handle the variable charge density and the limits of integration. Some participants express uncertainty about the integration steps and the implications of the charge density's dependence on r.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the integration required for calculating the charge. Some guidance has been provided regarding the limits of integration and the need to reconsider the setup of the integral. There is an acknowledgment of previous misunderstandings, but no consensus has been reached on the final form of the electric field.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. The variable nature of the charge density adds complexity to the integration process being discussed.

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1. A thick spherical shell has an inner radius Rsub1 and outer radius Rsub2, and for Rsub1 is less than r which is less than Rsub2, a volume charge density rho=C/r^3, where C is a constant. Find Electric Field for r=3Rsub2

My problem here is determining the excess charge of the shell. So I have figured out the volume of the shell to be (4/3)pi(Rsub2^3 - Rsub1^3). I have also realized that to find the excess charge of the shell I can set Rsub2 equal to r. Now, the integration. That is where I am stuck. I am still left with the Rsub1 inside the integral, as well as 1/r^3. What do I do here?

Am I correct that the other integral would be the integral of 1/r dr and become ln(r)?

Please help, I really appreciate it. (Sorry for the mess, I know nothing about Latex)
 
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MichaelT said:
My problem here is determining the excess charge of the shell. So I have figured out the volume of the shell to be (4/3)pi(Rsub2^3 - Rsub1^3). I have also realized that to find the excess charge of the shell I can set Rsub2 equal to r. Now, the integration. That is where I am stuck. I am still left with the Rsub1 inside the integral, as well as 1/r^3. What do I do here?
Q = ∫ρ dv. Since ρ depends on r, as does v, you can't separate out the volume integral. (You could if the charge density was constant, not variable.)

Am I correct that the other integral would be the integral of 1/r dr and become ln(r)?
That will come in handy. :wink:
 
ok. so I did take some constants out to clean it up a little. I have got:

4piC(ln(r) - integral[(1/r^3)(Rsub1^2)dr])

I really can't think of what to do here. I know that I can't take the Rsub1 out of the integral.

Thank you! :smile:
 
MichaelT said:
ok. so I did take some constants out to clean it up a little. I have got:

4piC(ln(r) - integral[(1/r^3)(Rsub1^2)dr])


You have to start over and redo the integral from scratch, like I suggested:

[tex]Q = \int \rho dv = \int \frac{C}{r^3} dv = \int (\frac{C}{r^3}) (4\pi r^2) dr[/tex]
 
Aha! And then set the limits of integration from Rsub2 to Rsub1, correct?
 
R_1 to R_2. (In the direction of increasing r.)
 
Sorry, that is what I meant. Wow, I feel stupid now LOL. I was approaching it from the wrong direction. Thank you so much, I think I got it now.

Electric field at r=3Rsub2

E= [C(ln(Rsub2/Rsub1)]/9(Rsub2)^2
 

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