Solving H2SO4 + NH4OH Acid-Base Reaction

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The discussion revolves around the acid-base reaction between sulfuric acid (H2SO4) and ammonium hydroxide (NH4OH). Participants are attempting to write the balanced chemical equation, complete ionic equation, identify spectator ions, and derive the net ionic equation. The conversation includes considerations of the strength of the acids and bases involved and their dissociation in solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the balanced equation as H2SO4(aq) + 2NH4OH(aq) → SO4(NH4)2(aq) + 2H2O(l) but expresses uncertainty about the product.
  • Another participant suggests the balanced equation should be H2SO4(aq) + 2NH4OH(aq) → (NH4)2SO4(aq) + 2H2O(l) and explains the dissociation of the reactants into ions.
  • It is noted that sulfuric acid is a strong acid and ammonium hydroxide is a weak base, leading to the formation of a salt and water.
  • One participant asserts that the net ionic equation for strong acid-strong base reactions is H+ + OH- → H2O.
  • Another participant counters that ammonium hydroxide is a weak base, which does not fully dissociate, leading to a revised net ionic equation: H+(aq) + NH4OH(aq) → H2O(l) + NH4+(aq).
  • There is a discussion about the dissociation of sulfuric acid, with one participant questioning whether it dissociates completely into H+ and SO42- ions or partially into H+ and HSO4-.
  • Another participant provides information on the pKa of HSO4- and its implications for the dissociation of sulfuric acid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dissociation of ammonium hydroxide and sulfuric acid, leading to multiple competing perspectives on the balanced and net ionic equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the dissociation and the resulting equations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the strength of acids and bases, the completeness of dissociation, and the definitions used in the context of the reaction.

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I have to write the complete ionic equation, list the spectator ions, and write the net ionic equation for H_2SO_4(aq) + NH_4OH(aq)

I thought I should attempt to write out the balanced chemical equation so this is what I got.

H_2SO_4(aq) + 2NH_4OH(aq) \longrightarrow SO_4(NH_4)_2(aq) + 2H_2O(l)


I just don't feel right about putting (NH_4)_2(aq) with SO_4(aq) I don't know why...

I won't bother writing out what I got for the complete ionic equation, spectator ions, and net ionic equation since it would all be wrong if my balanced chemical reaction was wrong.

Can someone please help me with this first step though. Many many thanks.
 
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I think the reaction should be:

H_2SO_4(aq) + 2NH_4OH(aq) \longrightarrow (NH_4)_2SO_4(aq) + 2H_2O(l)

Because,


H_2SO_4(aq) + 2NH_4OH(aq) \longrightarrow H^+ + SO_4^{2-} + NH_4^+ + OH^-

H^+ reacts with OH^- to form water.
NH_4^+ reacts with SO_4^{2-} to form (NH_4)_2SO_4, first the cation, then the anion and to have no charge they have to combine 2:1.
 
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Sulfuric Acid (H2SO4) is a strong acid, Ammonium Hydroxide (NH4OH) is a weak base, together, they should produce a salt + water.
The salt they would produce would be Ammonium Sulfate [(NH4)2SO4].

H2SO4 (aq) + 2 NH4OH (aq) --> (NH4)2SO4 (aq) + H2O (l)

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/A6192.htm" is soluble in water (41.22 g/100 mL), so it will be in solution in the final product.

Since both the Ammonium ad Sulfate ions are in solution in the reactants and products, in the net ionic equation, they cancel out, leaving just,
H+ (aq) + OH- (aq) --> H2O (l)
 
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I thought ammonium hydroxide was a strong base. For any strong acid-strong base reaction, the net ionic equation will be H+ + OH- ---> H2O
 
No, Ammonium Hydroxide is a weak base...weak as in it does not completely disassociate when dissolved, unlike H2SO4.

So, actually, I would like to revise my answer.
Since most of the NH4OH is not broken into ions, the net ionic reaction would be,
H+(aq) + NH4OH(aq) --> H2O(l) + NH4+(aq)
The H+ ion from the sulfuric acid will react with the NH4OH to make H2O and leave the Ammonium ion in solution.
 
H2SO4 is a strong acid, but HSO4- is a very weak acid...so won't the H2SO4 dissociate into H+ and HSO4- ions and not completely into H+ and SO42- ions?

Maybe I'm way off on this...
 
ksinclair13 said:
H2SO4 is a strong acid, but HSO4- is a very weak acid...so won't the H2SO4 dissociate into H+ and HSO4- ions and not completely into H+ and SO42- ions?

Maybe I'm way off on this...

Slightly :smile:

HSO4- is weaker, but not as weak as you think. pKa2=2.

0.01M sulfuric acid has pH of 1.85. For a very weak second step you may expect pH=2.00.Borek
 
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