Solving Hamiltonian H=αL⋅S for L⋅S |(ls)jjz>

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The discussion revolves around the Hamiltonian \( H = \alpha L \cdot S \), where \( L \) represents angular momentum and \( S \) denotes spin. Participants are tasked with working out \( L \cdot S |(ls)jj_{z}> \) and are prompted to expand \( (L+S)^2 \) as a starting point.

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  • Participants discuss their initial attempts at expressing \( L \cdot S |(ls)jj_{z}> \) and express uncertainty about their approaches. There are questions about how to handle the ket and the implications of the alpha term in energy calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and doubts about their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the hint to derive the expression, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the correctness of the initial attempts.

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Participants mention concerns about starting down the wrong path and the need to calculate the energy spectrum, indicating a focus on the implications of the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics.

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Consider the Hamiltonian
[tex]H=\alpha L \cdot S[/tex]
Where L denotes an angular momentum with quantum number l and S a spin with quantum number s.

Work out
[tex]L \cdot S |(ls)jj_{z}>[/tex]
direction. Hint: expand (L+S)2 and go from there.

2. The attempt at a solution

I'm highly tempted to start with
[tex]L \cdot S |(ls)jj_{z}> = \frac{\hbar^{2}}{2}[j(j+1)-l(l+1)-3/4]|(ls)jj_{z}>[/tex]
except I'm not sure that really buys me much. If I'm on the right track, how do I then handle the ket?
 
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Ok, so my first mistake was probably in my first crack at the solution; so I should probably have started with
[tex]L \cdot S |(ls)jj_{z}> = \frac{\hbar^{2}}{2}[j(j+1)-l(l+1)-s(s+1)]|(ls)jj_{z}>[/tex]
However, my initial self doubts still stand though.
 
That's fine so far. Why are you doubting it's right?

(If you want to derive it, use the hint.)
 
I'm doubting it almost out of habit, lately I've started down the wrong path more often than not.

So, given that I've actually got this one going correctly, what do I do with the information in the ket?

And as a more in-depth question; what does the alpha term do to things when I want to calculate the energy (full disclosure: the follow up question actually is to calculate the energy spectrum, where I would tend to want to start from the TISE)?
 
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atomicpedals said:
I'm doubting it almost out of habit, lately I've started down the wrong path more often than not.

So, given that I've actually got this one going correctly, what do I do with the information in the ket?
I'm not sure what you mean by this.

And as a more in-depth question; what does the alpha term do to things when I want to calculate the energy (full disclosure: the follow up question actually is to calculate the energy spectrum, where I would tend to want to start from the TISE)?
It's just a multiplicative constant.
 

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