Solving i^i: Why is i^i = 0.2078?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical expression i^i, which equals approximately 0.2078. This result is derived using the complex logarithm and Euler's formula, leading to the conclusion that i^i can be expressed as e^{-\pi/2}. It is noted that while e^{-\pi/2} is the principal solution, there are infinitely many other solutions due to the periodic nature of the complex logarithm. The conversation also touches on the distinction between equations, equalities, and identities, particularly in the context of Euler's identity. Overall, the thread provides a detailed exploration of the mathematical principles behind the evaluation of i^i.
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Why is i^i = 0.2078 ?
 
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you need to know about the complex log function. it's because i^i = e^{iLog(i)} = e^{i(ln|i| + iArg(i))} = e^{i(0 + i\pi/2)} = e^{-\pi/2} (it's weird that i^i is a real number)
 
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Adding to what Fourier jr noted, e^{-\pi/2} is one solution for i^i, but there actually exist infinitely many such solutions.

Edit: To give a more thorough (and perhaps student friendly explanation) about why i^i you'll need to know Euler's formula, which states that e^{ix} = \cos{(x)} + i\sin{(x)}. If you're unfamiliar with the formula, you can derive it relatively easily using the power series for the sine, cosine, and exponential functions. Another approach (my personal favorite) uses an argument involving differential equations. If you happen to be interested in these proofs, you can find them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_formula. Moving on to the problem in question, we'll begin with the equality

i^i = e^{i\log{(i)}}

Thus, we've already reduced the problem to evaluating \log{(i)}. Now, suppose that \log{(i)} has a solution in the field complex numbers, then

\log{(i)} = a + bi

for a,b \in \mathbb{R}, and consequently,

i = e^{a+bi} = e^a e^{bi} = e^a[\cos{(b)} + i\sin{(b)}]

Since the real part of \cos{(b)} + i\sin{(b)} must necessarily be zero, this means that b = \pi/2 + k\pi for k \in \mathbb{Z}. We can further refine the appropriate values for b by noting that \sin{(b)} > 0 and conclude that any b satisfying b = \pi/2 + 2k\pi should suffice.

Alright, now for any choice of b we have that \sin{(b)} = 1 and consequently i = ie^a. This implies that e^a = 1 and similarly that a = 0. Putting all this information together we find that,

\log{(i)} = i[\frac{\pi}{2} + 2k\pi]

Substituting this into our first equation we have

i^i = e^{i\log{(i)}} = e^{-[\frac{\pi}{2} + 2k\pi]}

And finally, setting k = 0 gives us the principal solution

i^i = e^{-\pi/2}

Hopefully you'll find this helpful (and hopefully it's not riddled with too many mistakes!).
 
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<br /> e^{i\pi} = -1<br />

<br /> \sqrt{( e^{i\pi} )} = e^{i \pi/2} = i<br /> <br />
Now raise to the i.

<br /> (e^{i \pi/2})^i = e^{i^2 \pi/2} = e^{-\pi/2} = i^i<br />
 
Nice, l'Hopital!
 
l'Hôpital said:
<br /> e^{i\pi} = -1<br />

<br /> \sqrt{( e^{i\pi} )} = e^{i \pi/2} = i<br /> <br />
Now raise to the i.

<br /> (e^{i \pi/2})^i = e^{i^2 \pi/2} = e^{-\pi/2} = i^i<br />

Wow! That's a neat proof (and considerably more elegant than my brute force approach).
 
l'Hôpital said:
<br /> e^{i\pi} = -1<br />

<br /> \sqrt{( e^{i\pi} )} = e^{i \pi/2} = i<br /> <br />
Now raise to the i.

<br /> (e^{i \pi/2})^i = e^{i^2 \pi/2} = e^{-\pi/2} = i^i<br />

I must admit, that proof is one of the best I've ever seen of what i^i equals. (And e^{i\pi}+1=0 is my personal favorite math equation, so I like that you used it.)
 
Char. Limit said:
I must admit, that proof is one of the best I've ever seen of what i^i equals.
Too bad..

Here we go:
i=e^{(2n+\frac{1}{2})\pi{i}),n\in\mathcal{Z}\to{i}^{i}=e^{-(2n+\frac{1}{2})\pi}
Infinite values, that is..
(And e^{i\pi}+1=0 is my personal favorite math equation, so I like that you used it.)
It is not an equation, but an equality.
 
arildno said:
Too bad..

Here we go:
i=e^{(2n+\frac{1}{2})\pi{i})},n\in\mathcal{Z}\to{i}^{i}=e^{-(2n+\frac{1}{2})\pi}
Infinite values, that is..

Too bad? What do you mean? It wasn't even my proof. Explain, please.

arildno said:
It is not an equation, but an equality.

Not so. For if Euler's Identity were not an equation, how could it also be known as Euler's Equation?

Euler's Identity - Wikipedia said:
Euler's identity is also sometimes called Euler's equation.

Also, since Merriam-Webster states that:

Merriam-Webster said:
Equation: a usually formal statement of the equality or equivalence of mathematical or logical expressions.

And since the equation (or equality, if you prefer) e^{i \pi }+1=0 is stating the equality of the left and right sides, and they all seem to be mathemetical expressions, I would say that Euler's Identity is an equation. It is also an equality since, I believe, all equalities are equations, once formally stated. It is also an identity. What it is not is a formula (and I've been berated before when I called it a formula, so I'm only agitated because my previous berator told me to call it an equation).
 
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Char. Limit said:
I believe, all equalities are equations.

I think that an equation is an equality involving expressions; however, an equality is a bit more involved. For example, the two sets {1,2,3} and {2,3,1} might be considered the same, or equal, if order does not matter.
 
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An equation is a sub-type of an equality, in which a set of argument values are implied (or best, SPECIFIED) (for example, the real numbers), for which only a sub-set of measure zero contains solutions to the equality.

For example, in the equation x+y=0, our implied set of argument values is the (x,y)-PLANE, whereas the solution set is a line, i.e, a subset that has measure zero relative to the plane.

An identity is an equality that holds for ALL values within the implied set.
For example, x+x=2x is an identity, however we choose our set of argument values (for example, for the integers, the reals or the complex numbers).

Any other types of equalities are..equalities (although on occasion, the above expression is called Euler's identity, but NEVER Euler's equation).
 
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I really must remember not to state anything on this forum unless I know it is true and always true, apparently...

If it's only occasionally referred to as Euler's Identity, why is that the article's TITLE? (I can use all caps too)

And if it's never called Euler's Equation, why don't you prove that, with cited sources, like that Wikipedia article, which you definitely, deliberately, and undeniably contradicted, uses?

I prefer to believe an encyclopedia that cites the sources it uses to a single person who doesn't, no matter how many "awards" he or she has.

However, since you've been here for far longer than I have, and have connections that I don't, I'm probably just going to be banned instead. (Cynicism is strong in me...)
 
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