Solving Natural Logarithmic Equations

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves solving the equation ln(2x+1)=2-ln(x) for the variable x, which falls under the subject area of logarithmic equations and algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the treatment of e^2 in the context of applying the quadratic formula, questioning whether to treat it as a constant or to simplify it further. There are also discussions about the validity of the steps taken in the solution process, particularly regarding the equivalence of logarithmic expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the quadratic equation and clarified the treatment of e^2. There are differing interpretations of the logarithmic manipulation, with some participants suggesting corrections to the original approach. The discussion is active, with multiple perspectives being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential errors in the manipulation of logarithmic expressions, and participants are addressing these while considering the implications for the overall solution process.

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Homework Statement



Solve ln(2x+1)=2-ln(x) for x.


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The Attempt at a Solution



e^(ln(2x+1)) = e^((2-ln(x))

2x + 1 = e^(2/x)

2x^2 + x = e^2

2x^2+x-e^2 = 0

At this point, I know you're supposed to use the quadratic equation. But, my problem is with how to treat e^2. Should I multiply it out in the discriminant where c = e^2? or just e?

Thanks for any help.
 
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e^2 is just a number... you can call it c if you like.
 
You can either just calculate it out (it's only a number!) or include it in the quadratic formula and quote your answers in terms of e.
It depends wether this is for home work or real work!
 
There is an error in the second part

e^(ln(2x+1)) = e^((2-ln(x))

2x + 1 = e^(2/x)

These are NOT equivalent. Remember that you can only turn logarithmic expressions
into quotients of logarithms in a case like this: ln z - ln x = ln (z/x)

Try again using that info.
 
BrendanH said:
There is an error in the second part

e^(ln(2x+1)) = e^((2-ln(x))

2x + 1 = e^(2/x)

These are NOT equivalent. Remember that you can only turn logarithmic expressions
into quotients of logarithms in a case like this: ln z - ln x = ln (z/x)

Try again using that info.
I suspect that was a typo because in the next line he has
2x^2+ x= e^2 which is correct.

Added Later: In fact, I would have been inclined to solve the problem as follows:
ln(2x+1)=2-ln(x) so, adding ln(x) to both sides, ln(2x+1)+ ln(x)= ln(x(2x+1))= 2.
Now take the exponetial of both sides: x(2x+1)= 2x2+ x= e2 and you can solve that quadratic equation for x.
 
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BrendanH, Rossinole meant (e^2)/x, not e^(2/x). The next line in the derivation,
2x^2 + x = e^2
is correct.

edit added:
Halls beat me to it.
 

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