Solving Potential of Line Charge: Square 6m on a Side

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential at a point above a uniform line charge arranged in a square configuration in the z-plane. The line charge has a density of 1 nC/m and the square measures 6m on each side.

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  • Participants discuss the selection of points on the line charge and question the implications of symmetry in the problem setup. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of the z-plane and its relevance to the problem. Some participants express confusion about the potential calculation and the integration process.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with participants questioning the assumptions made about the charge distribution and the geometry involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of symmetry and integration, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

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Participants note potential missing information in the problem statement, particularly regarding the definition of the z-plane and the arrangement of the line charge. There is an acknowledgment that the uniformity of the charge distribution simplifies some aspects of the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A uniform line charge of density pl = 1nC/m is arrange in the form of a square 6m on a side. (In the z plane) Find the potential at (0,0,5) m

Answer:35.6 V

Homework Equations


R = The distance from the line to the point (0,0,5)
dL = ax dx + ay dy + az dz

The Attempt at a Solution


Well any point on the uniform line charge can be selected for this problem so I picked (0,3,0)
There for the distance is R= Sqrt((5-0)^2+ (0-3)^2)) Then I know that the potential of a charge distribution is equal to the integration of the whole volume of (p dV)/(4pi*Eo the Permittivity of free space*R)

Therefore, the x components don't matter because at both points they are zero. So I figured I would just integrate in terms of y get an answer and then integrate in terms of z and get an answer then the sum of those would be the total potential. However it doesn't seem to be coming out to the right answer.

Integral [0 to 3] pl/4pi*E0*R dy = 4.6241
Integral [0 to 5] pl/4pi*E0*R dz = 7.7068

does anyone know what I am doing wrong??
thanks for your help
 
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I'm sorry I don't know the answer. I'm just wondering about the z-plane. what does that even mean. a palce has two axis
 
FatoonsBaby71 said:
A uniform line charge of density pl = 1nC/m is arrange in the form of a square 6m on a side. (In the z plane) Find the potential at (0,0,5) m
I think that your problem statement is missing some information. I assume that "the z plane" means the xy plane (i.e. the z=0 plane). I assume that the square of line charges is centered on the origin.

FatoonsBaby71 said:
Well any point on the uniform line charge can be selected for this problem so I picked (0,3,0)
This problem is not symmetric under exchange of any two points on the square. There is some symmetry, but that's not it.
 
Yes, I was wrong the uniform line charge is in the x-y plane where z = 0... I apologize.

So I really can't just pick a point on the line charge...i thought it wouldn't matter because it is uniformly distributed. Do you have any idea on how I could attack this problem??
 
FatoonsBaby71 said:
So I really can't just pick a point on the line charge...i thought it wouldn't matter because it is uniformly distributed. Do you have any idea on how I could attack this problem??
The uniformity makes the integrand simpler than if the distribution were generally nonuniform. Your hints are: integration and symmetry. Oh, and you may have a formula in your book for the potential due to a finite length of line charge, so think about that as a possibly alternative approach.
 

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