Solving problems = 90% of what one needs to do to master a subject?

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The discussion revolves around the role of problem-solving in mastering a subject, particularly in the context of exams and research. Participants share their experiences and opinions on the effectiveness of various learning resources, including lectures, textbooks, and problem sets.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that solving problems is crucial for solidifying knowledge and identifying gaps in understanding.
  • Another participant argues that while problem-solving is important for exams, it may not be as relevant in research, emphasizing the need for imagination in that context.
  • Some participants propose that a significant portion of exam success (around 50%) comes from practicing past papers, with lesser contributions from lectures and textbooks.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of lectures, with some participants feeling they are almost useless compared to problem-solving practice.
  • One participant reflects on the importance of revisiting foundational skills learned in earlier courses, noting that a lack of practice can lead to poorer performance in advanced courses.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding how to express knowledge in a way that meets the expectations of instructors, highlighting the challenges posed by grading criteria.
  • There is a mention of the value of thorough reading and review of materials, with one participant stating that their goal is to master the subject rather than solely to achieve good grades.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of lectures versus problem-solving, with no consensus reached on the overall importance of each in mastering a subject. Some agree on the necessity of problem-solving for exams, while others question its relevance in research contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the potential limitations of their experiences, such as the varying effectiveness of different teaching methods and the subjective nature of grading practices.

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There are so many learning resources out there -- school lectures, online lectures, books, and lots more books... all kinds of books.

It's easy to get lost, however I think what I always knew is that doing problems is what really matters at the end - that's what solidifies what you know and shows you all the things you missed.

... is that true? I simply want to know what your opinion is, especially since a lot of people here made it all the way to earning a PhDs and doing research and whatnot.
 
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I think it is true in the case of doing well in exams. I don't know if it is the case in research.

I would say that for exams, the majority of the marks (some 50% ?) you get from practising past year papers well enough, and only 25% comes from the lecture notes and textbook examples. Of course, the remaining 20% derives from experience in similar subjects, and about 5% from diligently attending lectures (almost useless given the opportunity cost).

Yes, building a foundation is important and I would say the stuff you learned in trivial first year courses, if you studied them well, would really payoff once you find you need to revisit those skills in your second and third year. A little bit of rustiness in a particular technique in the earlier years of university can result in a B grade on later year courses, really. Your lecturer may suddenly decide to pose a problem which requires the use of some boring and mundane approximation like Taylor's technique.

Did anybody else find the same thing? That lectures are almost useless... And that doing well on an exam depends on finding examples / problems set at the right level of difficulty... Problems that are too easy waste your time without giving you a corresponding improvement in mathematical agility... At university I wasted far too much time on those... I used to blindly repeat problem sets from question 1 to question 10, even the most trivial ones, as I feared that I may have forgotten simple techniques.

Perhaps it was not so much understanding that gave me difficulty,but expressing that understanding in a way that would satisfy some of the more anal and pedantic lecturers who would find any excuse (untidy notation or a single arithmetic slip for example), to deduct large amounts of marks.
 
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You read books and learn things to pass exams.

Imagination's what you need to push forward in research :smile:
 
nightdove said:
I think it is true in the case of doing well in exams. I don't know if it is the case in research.

I would say that for exams, the majority of the marks (some 50% ?) you get from practising past year papers well enough, and only 25% comes from the lecture notes and textbook examples. Of course, the remaining 20% derives from experience in similar subjects, and about 5% from diligently attending lectures (almost useless given the opportunity cost).

Yes, building a foundation is important and I would say the stuff you learned in trivial first year courses, if you studied them well, would really payoff once you find you need to revisit those skills in your second and third year. A little bit of rustiness in a particular technique in the earlier years of university can result in a B grade on later year courses, really. Your lecturer may suddenly decide to pose a problem which requires the use of some boring and mundane approximation like Taylor's technique.

Did anybody else find the same thing? That lectures are almost useless... And that doing well on an exam depends on finding examples / problems set at the right level of difficulty... Problems that are too easy waste your time without giving you a corresponding improvement in mathematical agility... At university I wasted far too much time on those... I used to blindly repeat problem sets from question 1 to question 10, even the most trivial ones, as I feared that I may have forgotten simple techniques.

Perhaps it was not so much understanding that gave me difficulty,but expressing that understanding in a way that would satisfy some of the more anal and pedantic lecturers who would find any excuse (untidy notation or a single arithmetic slip for example), to deduct large amounts of marks.

I find attending lectures is very helpful. Also, it is very helpful to go over every chapter (reading assignments and assigned problems) with a fine too comb.

In the end though, I do these things to master the subject...not in order to get a good grade...I really do not care much about grades. I care a little bit because they are important to employers and grad schools, but it's not the most important thing to me.
 

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