Solving Psychrometry Questions: Room Temp & Water Vapor

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of psychrometry, specifically addressing how water vapor can exist in the air at temperatures below 100 °C and the mechanisms of evaporation at room temperature. Participants explore the principles of vapor pressure, phase transitions, and the conditions under which water can evaporate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how water can exist as vapor at room temperature, given that 100 °C is typically associated with the boiling point of water.
  • Another participant suggests looking into concepts such as vapor pressure, partial pressure, and phase diagrams to understand the phenomenon better.
  • A participant explains that water begins to evaporate at temperatures below 100 °C, referencing Dalton's law and the concept of vapor pressure, which indicates that water can exist as vapor at lower temperatures depending on the pressure.
  • It is noted that at 20 °C, the vapor pressure of water allows for a certain percentage of water vapor in the air, which is linked to relative humidity.
  • Participants discuss two methods of evaporation: heating water to increase temperature until it vaporizes and depressurization (flash evaporation) at constant temperature.
  • There is mention of air's capacity to absorb water vapor until it reaches saturation, leading to condensation or precipitation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of evaporation and the conditions under which water can exist as vapor. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple perspectives on the topic being presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific scientific principles and laws, such as Dalton's law and the concept of vapor pressure, but there are no explicit agreements on the interpretations or implications of these concepts. The discussion includes assumptions about temperature and pressure conditions that are not fully explored.

patelsp004
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
As we all know that in atmospheric pressure (1 Bar) saturation temperature of water is 100 deg C. And the air contains mixture of dry air and water vapour.
My doubt is here that the water needs 100 deg Celsius to change from liquid to vapour state then how can a normal room temperature air contain water vapour. since it need 100 deg to start converting into vapour then how can water be in form of vapour at room temperature (say 20 deg).
One thing i also have doubt that how a water spread on floor gets evaporated at normal temperature. I know i am doing wrong anywhere but please clear the concept.
THANKS
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Look/Google vapor pressure, partial pressure, phase rule, dew point, bubble point, phase transition, phase diagram.
 
The water doesn't start to evaporate at 100 °C, but earlier. Have you ever heard of Dalton's law? It says that the total air pressure is the sum of all the partial pressures of its components - the partial pressures corrispond to the volume and molucule fraction of the different gases. That means, that 1 bar of air pressure is roughly the sum of 0.79 bar "nitrogen-pressure" an 0.21 bar "oxygen-pressure". However there are more components than these two in the air, also steam. Depending on its temperature, water has a certain vapor pressure, which is the maximal possible (partial) pressure of water in gaseous phase. At 100 °C the vapor pressure is 1 bar, therefore all the water can evaporate. The vapor pressure of water at 20°C is 0,0234 bar. That means if the water has a temperature of 20°C and the pressure is 1 bar, water can evaporate till 2.34 % of the air consists out of steam.

Find attached a diagram of the temperatur vs. pressure for water to find the boiling temperature depending on the pressure or the vapor pressure depending on the temperature

PS.: The ratio of the actual partial pressure (volume/molecule fraction) steam in the air to the maximal possible (=the vapor pressure dependent on the temperature) is called the relative humidity.
 

Attachments

  • BFABinnen_Kurs_Wetter_Folie_3_Dampfdruck.GIF
    BFABinnen_Kurs_Wetter_Folie_3_Dampfdruck.GIF
    22.3 KB · Views: 552
Last edited:
There is about 2 ways of evaporating water.

1) Heating
2) Depressurization/ flash evaporation - on an isotherm
ole4.gif

Simple heating - increasing the water temperature at constant Pressure until vapor phase is reached and consequently it evaporates
Flash evaporation by the way, is achieved when water is depressurized at constant temperature.

Also air has capacity to absorb water to the point of (saturation) where it can no longer absorb further, thus condensation or precipitation occur.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
35
Views
6K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
3K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
6K