Solving QFT Commutator: Getting Unstuck with Quantum Field Theory

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The discussion revolves around understanding a specific integral related to the commutator in quantum field theory (QFT). Participants explore the mathematical steps involved in evaluating the integral and its significance in the context of QFT, particularly in relation to the commutation relations of fields.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding an integral from a QFT textbook, which is fundamental to the formalism of the theory.
  • Another participant provides a detailed evaluation of the integral, breaking it down into steps involving delta functions and Fourier transforms.
  • A later reply clarifies that the final step of obtaining the delta function from the integral is related to the properties of the Fourier transform.
  • Participants discuss the importance of having a solid understanding of Fourier analysis and complex analysis for tackling QFT effectively.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of the integral and its relation to the commutator in QFT. However, there is no consensus on the specific mathematical steps leading to the delta function, as one participant expresses uncertainty about the final transition.

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Some participants mention the need for a deeper understanding of Fourier transforms and complex analysis to fully grasp the concepts discussed. There are indications of missing formal knowledge that may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for undergraduate students beginning their studies in quantum field theory, particularly those interested in the mathematical foundations of the subject and the role of commutation relations in QFT.

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solving for commutator in QFT

I am just starting to learn quantum field theory. I'm still an undergraduate but I love particle physics and I want to get ahead, so I got the book "introduction to quantum field theory by peskin and schroeder"
I got to page 21 and I'm already stuck at an integral that I've been staring at for a few days now. The book says
"If computations such as this one are unfamiliar to you, please work them out carefully; they are quite easy after a little practice, and are fundamental to the formalism of the next two chapters."

So I don't want to to just move on, I'd like to understand how they do it. It is quite a big integral, but I'm really just hoping that if it really is fundamental to the theory then someone may recognize it and just be able to give me a push in the right direction.

So without further ado, here is the integral:
\int\frac{d^{3}pd^{3}p^{\prime}}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{6}}\frac{-i}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\omega_{p^{\prime}}}{\omega_{p}}}\left( \left[ a_{-\textbf{p}}^{\dagger},a_{\textbf{p}^{'}}\right] -\left[ a_{\textbf{p}},a_{-\textbf{p}^{'}}^{\dagger}\right]\right) e^{i\left( \textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}+\textbf{p}^{\prime}\cdot\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}=i\delta^{\left( 3\right)}\left(\textbf{x}-\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)
where:
\left[ a_{\textbf{p}},a_{\textbf{p}^{'}}^{\dagger}\right]=\left( 2\pi\right)^{3}\delta^{\left( 3\right)}\left(\textbf{p}-\textbf{p}^{\prime}\right)
and
\omega_{\textbf{p}}=\sqrt{\left|\textbf{p}\right|^{2}+m^{2}}

Basically all the integral is doing is to find the commutator between two fields (sorry if my wording is off, I'm still trying to understand). So in normal quantum mechanics we have the commutator between 'x' and 'p', [x_{i},p_{j}]=i\delta_{ij} (with h-bar set to 1). But in relativistic quantum mechanics I guess we need to use fields so they "quantize" x and p, into \phi(\textbf{x}) and \pi(\textbf{y}), and they express them in terms of integrals. So then to verify that we get a similar commutator as the one for non-relativistic quantum mechanics they multiply those integrals accordingly to find [\phi(\textbf{x}),\pi(\textbf{y})], and that is exactly what the integral above is, and as shown above they get the answer i\delta^{(3)}(\textbf{x}-\textbf{x}^{\prime}).

It makes sense because the answer is very similar to the non-relativistic commutator.. But, I just don't see how the above integral works out to this.
 
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\int\frac{d^{3}pd^{3}p^{\prime}}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{6}}\frac{-i}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\omega_{p^{\prime}}}{\omega_{p}}}\left( \left[ a_{-\textbf{p}}^{\dagger},a_{\textbf{p}^{'}}\right] -\left[ a_{\textbf{p}},a_{-\textbf{p}^{'}}^{\dagger}\right]\right) e^{i\left( \textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}+\textbf{p}^{\prime}\cdot\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}
=\int\frac{d^{3}pd^{3}p^{\prime}}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{6}}\frac{-i}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\omega_{p^{\prime}}}{\omega_{p}}}\left[-(2\pi)^3\delta(-p-p^\prime)-(2\pi)^3\delta(p+p^\prime)\right] e^{i\left( \textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}+\textbf{p}^{\prime}\cdot\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}
=\int\frac{d^{3}p}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{3}}i\sqrt{\frac{\omega_{p^{\prime}}}{\omega_{p}}}\left[\delta(p+p^\prime)\right] e^{i\left( \textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}+\textbf{p}^{\prime}\cdot\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}
=\int\frac{d^{3}p}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{3}}i\sqrt{\frac{\omega_{p}}{\omega_{-p}}}e^{i\left( \textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}-\textbf{p}\cdot\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}
=\int\frac{d^{3}p}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{3}}i\cdot 1\cdot e^{i \textbf{p}\cdot\left(\textbf{x}-\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}
=i\delta(x-x^\prime)
 
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By \delta I mean \delta^{(3)}.
 
Ahh, now I'm going to kick myself! I actually got exactly that:
=\int\frac{d^{3}p}{\left( 2\pi\right)^{3}}i\cdot 1\cdot e^{i \textbf{p}\cdot\left(\textbf{x}-\textbf{x}^{\prime}\right)}

But that's where I stopped because I didn't see how to get the delta function from that, and I still don't.. Now I feel bad because it's probably just a definition or something.. I was trying to mess around with nascent delta functions and seeing if taking a limit of some sort would make any sense.. But no luck

Could you just elaborate a little bit on that last step please?
and thank you very much for your time, I hope it wasn't too much trouble to type all that out.
 
You're welcome! The last step will become trivial after you've learned Fourier transform. Basically, it says that the Fourier transform of the constant function is the delta function. You need to know Fourier transform and complex analysis before tackling QFT.
 
Great, that makes sense now thank you.

I have taken some complex analysis, I've just never had a really formal introduction to Fourier analysis, but it's good to know that it will be important for this subject so I can get caught up on that first.
 

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