Solving Quadratic Drag Force on Upward Motion of Gun

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The discussion focuses on solving the quadratic drag force on the upward motion of a gun fired straight up. The key equations presented are v^2 = Ae^{-2kx} - g/k for upward motion and v^2 = g/k - Be^{2kx} for downward motion. A common point of confusion arises regarding the signs of the forces in the equation ma = mg + cv^2, where the user struggles to reconcile the negative signs required to match the book's answer. The resolution lies in the definition of the positive direction, which can be chosen consistently as either upward or downward.

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A gun is fired straight up. Assume a quadratic drag force.
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(upward motion) v^2 = Ae^{-2kx} - \frac{g}{k}
(downward motion) v^2 = g/k - Be^{2kx}

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I can easily solve the integrals unfortunately I am having difficulty setting equations up.

Upward:
ma = mg + cv^2

Unfortunately, to get the book's answer I would need to say ma = -mg - cv^2
And I am having a difficult time seeing why both terms are negative.

I draw the free body diagram. As soon as the bullet leaves the barrel, the acceleration is in the downward direction. (so mg is pos) and the drag also acts in the downward direction so I thought ma = mg + cv^2. Shouldn't mg and cv^2 both be positive because they are in the direction of the acceleration?

Does anyone know why I am getting different signs?
 
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jesuslovesu said:
Upward:
ma = mg + cv^2

Unfortunately, to get the book's answer I would need to say ma = -mg - cv^2
And I am having a difficult time seeing why both terms are negative.

I draw the free body diagram. As soon as the bullet leaves the barrel, the acceleration is in the downward direction. (so mg is pos) and the drag also acts in the downward direction so I thought ma = mg + cv^2. Shouldn't mg and cv^2 both be positive because they are in the direction of the acceleration?

Does anyone know why I am getting different signs?
They just defined the positive direction as upwards where you defined it as downwards. There is nothing wrong with either choice, as long as you are consistent while working the problem.
 

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