Solving Schwartz QFT Eqn 5.26 to Get Eqn 5.27

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The discussion revolves around the transition from Equation 5.26 to Equation 5.27 in Schwartz's Quantum Field Theory textbook. Participants explore the mathematical steps involved, including integration and the implications of changing variables, within the context of theoretical physics.

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  • One participant questions how Equation 5.26 can lead to Equation 5.27, noting the lack of an explicit integral in 5.26.
  • Another participant suggests integrating over the delta function and switching to spherical coordinates in momentum space, emphasizing the separation of the delta function into products over 3-vectors and energies.
  • A participant points out that while 5.27 is Lorentz invariant, it adopts a specific frame (the CM frame), which differs from the general form in 5.26.
  • There is a discussion about the implicit nature of integration in 5.26, with one participant asserting that integration over momentum can be inserted without altering the original equation.
  • Several participants express their personal experiences and goals related to studying the textbook, indicating a shared interest in solving exercises from the book.

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Participants express differing views on the integration process and the implications of changing variables between the two equations. There is no consensus on the exact steps needed to transition from 5.26 to 5.27, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the integration aspect.

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Participants note the dependence on specific frames and the implicit nature of integration, which may not be clearly stated in the equations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the mathematical formalism presented in the textbook.

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Readers interested in Quantum Field Theory, particularly those studying Schwartz's textbook or similar materials, may find this discussion relevant for understanding the nuances of equation transitions and integration in theoretical contexts.

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Hello.
From Schwartz QFT BOOK,
How could Eqn 5.26 can be Eqn 5.27?

[itex]d \Pi_{LIPS}=(2 \pi) ^{4} \delta^{4}(\Sigma p) \frac{d^{3} p_{3}}{(2 \pi) ^{3}} \frac{1}{2 E_{3}} \frac{d^{3} p_{4}}{(2 \pi)^{3}} \frac{1}{2 E_{4}}[/itex] Eqn(5.26)


[itex]d \Pi_{LIPS}=\frac{1}{16 \pi ^{2}} dΩ ∫ d p_{f} \frac{{p_{f}}^2}{E_{3}} \frac{1}{E_{4}} \delta ( E_{3} + E_{4} - E_{CM})[/itex] Eqn(5.27)
 
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Just integrate over the ##\delta##-function and then switch to spherical coordinates in momentum space. Keep in mind ##\delta^4 (\Sigma p) = \delta^4 (p^{\mu}_1 + p^{\mu}_2 - p^{\mu}_3 - p^{\mu}_4)## so separate the ##\delta##-function into products over the 3-vectors and the energies.
 
Integrate over? In (5.26), there is no integration?
 
It's implicit.
 
Yeah, there really shouldn't be an integral sign in 5.27 if there isn't one in 5.26. Also, p_3 has changed its name to p_f. Also, while 5.27 is Lorentz invariant, he's adopted a specific frame (the CM frame) in 5.27.
 
OK. as [itex]\vec{p_{3}}=-\vec{p_{4}}[/itex] , we can insert integration (over [itex]\vec{p_{4}}[/itex] ) in Eqn(5.26) without altering the original. got it.
 
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thanks. I would ask some more questions about Shwartz QFT textbook. I hope to solve all the exercises of this book within 2 years, though had solved only up to ch.4
 
merrypark3 said:
I hope to solve all the exercises of this book within 2 years, though had solved only up to ch.4

Cool, well good luck! I'm working through the book as well actually. I'm on ch.7 problems. So it looks like we have the same goals :)
 
Good. Good luck! This book is quite well written.
 
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merrypark3 said:
This book is quite well written.

Haha yes, it is the first QFT book I've personally come across that actually feels like a true physics book. It almost feels like cheating having this book in possession when my class's assigned text is (unfortunately) Peskin and Schroeder since the former provides all the intuition that the latter completely lacks, at least in Part I (I haven't even looked Parts II and beyond).

EDIT: actually Aitchison and Hey is a really awesome physics book as well, George Jones told me about it.
 
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