Solving Spring-Mass System: Force of Reaction as a Function of Time

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The discussion revolves around a spring-mass system where a spring supports a box containing a block. The original poster seeks to determine the force of reaction between the block and the bottom of the box as a function of time after the system is displaced from equilibrium and released. The problem involves concepts from dynamics and harmonic motion.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to derive equations for the system but struggles with integrating to find the force as a function of time. Other participants question the setup by considering the scenario without the additional block and discuss the resulting equations of motion.

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The discussion is ongoing with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided equations and suggested methods for analyzing the motion, while others seek clarification on the physical implications of the forces involved.

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Participants are working under the assumption that air resistance is negligible and are exploring the conditions under which the block begins to leave the bottom of the box. There is also a focus on the relationship between displacement and the resulting motion of the system.

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A spring of stiffness k supports a box of mass M in which is placed a block of mass m. If the system is pulled down a distancde d from the equilibrium position and released, find the force of reaction between the block and the bottom of the box as a function of time. Neglect any air resistance. For what value of d does the block just begin to leave the bottom of the box?

What i considered for this is as follows:
using Newtons second law:
for the overall system,
[tex](m+M)a = kd - (m+M)g[/tex]
then for the block of mass m:
[tex]ma=F_{normal}-mg[/tex]
then i subbed in the second equation for ma in the first, and tried to rearrange for [tex]F_{normal}[/tex]
however i am not sure how to get the force as a function of time, writing a as dv/dt doesn't help since i cannot rearrange it to integrate i think.

thanks for the help
 
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What would be the equation of motion without the extra block inside the first block?
 
without the extra block it would just be
[tex]Ma=kd - Mg[/tex]
is this correct? but then how do i proceed
 
That is just a starting equation describing the forces. What physical motion results from those forces? What equation describes the SHM of the mass once the spring with the d distance preload is released?
 
[tex]x(t)=d cos (\omega t)[/tex] is what comes to mind. so i can differentiate this twice to obtain acceleration as a function of time, and plug it into one of the equations i had earlier? is this a correct approach? if so what would do i solve for, thanks much appreciated
 
no more help i can get on this one?
 

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