Solving Square Root Questions: A Math Tutorial for Beginners

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Discussion Overview

This discussion revolves around understanding the square root of the difference of squares, specifically the expression \(\sqrt{13^2 - 12^2}\). Participants explore the steps involved in simplifying this expression, addressing misconceptions and arithmetic errors, and clarifying the mathematical principles at play.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the square root operation and its relation to the difference of squares, asking for a simplified explanation.
  • Another participant points out several invalid steps in the initial calculation, emphasizing that \(\sqrt{a^2 - b^2} \neq a - b\) and highlighting that the square root does not simply "cancel out".
  • There is a correction regarding the calculation of \(13^2\), clarifying that it equals \(169\) and not \(149\), which affects the overall computation.
  • Some participants discuss the validity of expressing \(\sqrt{25}\) as \(5\), noting that it is acceptable to simplify the square root back to its base value.
  • A hint is provided suggesting an alternative method to solve the problem using the factorization of the difference of squares: \(a^2 - b^2 = (a+b)(a-b)\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial misunderstanding of the square root operation, as some express confusion while others provide corrections. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem and clarify the arithmetic involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the initial understanding of mathematical terms and operations, particularly regarding the square root and the difference of squares. Some steps in the calculations remain unresolved, and the discussion reflects varying levels of mathematical literacy among participants.

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How does this work? (Also, I am very math illiterate and do not understand even the most basic terms, if you could kindly speak as you would to a child I would GREATLY appreciate it.)

sq rt sign over 13^2 - 12^2 (over both of it together)

Now the answer is 5, because

(13)(13) - (12)(12)

149-144 = 5

But what canceled out the sq rtt? We did the exponents so did that cancel it out?

Thanks for help.

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Several of your steps are invalid.

1) $\sqrt{a^2 - b^2} \neq a - b$, i.e., the square root and the difference of squares do not "cancel out". For example, let $a = 5$ and $b = 4$. $a^2 - b^2 = 5^2 - 4^2 = 25 - 16 = 9$ and $\sqrt{5^2-4^2} = \sqrt{9} = 3$ whereas $4 - 3 = 1$.

2) What you wrote in the attachment was $\sqrt{13^2 - 12^2} = 13^2 - 12^2$. Where did the square root go? This is an invalid step.

3) $13^2 = 13 \times 13$ is actually $169$, not $149$. So your calculations are void.

Can you recalculate the expression now that your have been pointed out?
 
OMGMathPLS said:
How does this work? (Also, I am very math illiterate and do not understand even the most basic terms, if you could kindly speak as you would to a child I would GREATLY appreciate it.)

sq rt sign over 13^2 - 12^2 (over both of it together)

Now the answer is 5, because

(13)(13) - (12)(12)

149-144 = 5

But what canceled out the sq rtt? We did the exponents so did that cancel it out?

Thanks for help.

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You have a mistake at your calculation.
It is $13^2=169$ instead of $149$.

Therefore, $$\sqrt{13^2-12^2}=\sqrt{169-144}=\sqrt{25}=5$$
 
Oh. Well I guess that explains it then. God!

Ok, so you leave the sq rt then at 25 but it's ok to put it back to 5?
 
Ok, so you leave the sq rt then at 25 but it's ok to put it back to 5?

Note that $25 = 5^2$. Thus, by commutativity,

$$\sqrt{25} = \sqrt{5^2} = \sqrt{5}^2 = 5$$
 
OMGMathPLS said:
Oh. Well I guess that explains it then. God!

Ok, so you leave the sq rt then at 25 but it's ok to put it back to 5?

Since $5\cdot 5=25 \Rightarrow 5^2=25$ we have that $ \sqrt{5^2}=\sqrt{25}\Rightarrow 5=\sqrt{25}$
 
mathbalarka said:
Several of your steps are invalid.

1) $\sqrt{a^2 - b^2} \neq a - b$, i.e., the square root and the difference of squares do not "cancel out". For example, let $a = 5$ and $b = 4$. $a^2 - b^2 = 5^2 - 4^2 = 25 - 16 = 9$ and $\sqrt{5^2-4^2} = \sqrt{9} = 3$ whereas $4 - 3 = 1$.

2) What you wrote in the attachment was $\sqrt{13^2 - 12^2} = 13^2 - 12^2$. Where did the square root go? This is an invalid step.

3) $13^2 = 13 \times 13$ is actually $169$, not $149$. So your calculations are void.

Can you recalculate the expression now that your have been pointed out?

OMGMathPLS said:
Oh. Well I guess that explains it then. God!

Ok, so you leave the sq rt then at 25 but it's ok to put it back to 5?
He was really only trying to help without giving direct answers (Blush)
 
ineedhelpnow said:
He was really only trying to help without giving direct answers (Blush)
Yeah, thanks for the help. It's just embarrassing. I really thought I partially figured it out. So they explained the arithmetic error and it's ok to solve it all the way to a 5 not simplify. Just a dumb mistake I made and I'm praying it won't kill me later. Thanks.
 
You can do this problem in this manner also
Hint: a^2-b^2 =(a+b)(a-b)
13^2-12^2=(13+12)(13-12)
=25*1
 

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