Solving System of Linear Equations: x_2 Free Variable?

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The discussion revolves around a system of linear equations represented in augmented matrix form. Participants are exploring the nature of the variable x₂, particularly whether it is a free variable and how to express it in the general solution.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants consider x₂ to be a free variable and discuss how to represent it in the solution set. Others question the existence of x₂ in the context of the given system, suggesting it may not be necessary to include it at all.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concept of free variables and their implications in the solution set. There is a recognition of differing perspectives on how to interpret the role of x₂, with some suggesting it could be treated as arbitrary while others argue against its inclusion.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of viewing the problem in different dimensional spaces, such as R³ and R⁵, which influences the interpretation of the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


|1 0-1-2-8 | -3|
|0 0 1 2 7 | 1|
|0 0 0 1 -4 | -13|


I think that x[itex]_{2}[/itex] is a free variable, so when writing the general solution in a solution set, what would I put for it? Nothing?
 
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Panphobia said:

Homework Statement


|1 0-1-2-8 | -3|
|0 0 1 2 7 | 1|
|0 0 0 1 -4 | -13|


I think that x[itex]_{2}[/itex] is a free variable, so when writing the general solution in a solution set, what would I put for it? Nothing?
You could say that x2 is arbitrary or you could say that x2 = t, an arbitrary real number.
 
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Oh ok thanks for that, I got it.
 
Panphobia said:

Homework Statement


|1 0-1-2-8 | -3|
|0 0 1 2 7 | 1|
|0 0 0 1 -4 | -13|


I think that x[itex]_{2}[/itex] is a free variable, so when writing the general solution in a solution set, what would I put for it? Nothing?

When you write out the equations in detail you see that there is no ##x_2## anywhere in the system. I would not put anything for it; it does not "exist" for this system, no more than ##x_{17}## or ##x_{265}## exist here. However, I suppose you *could* argue the point.
 
Ray Vickson said:
When you write out the equations in detail you see that there is no ##x_2## anywhere in the system. I would not put anything for it; it does not "exist" for this system, no more than ##x_{17}## or ##x_{265}## exist here. However, I suppose you *could* argue the point.

I would say ##x^2+y^2=1## in ##R^3## represents a cylinder. Saying it's a circle in the plane because z doesn't occur isn't really a good answer.
 
Dick said:
I would say ##x^2+y^2=1## in ##R^3## represents a cylinder. Saying it's a circle in the plane because z doesn't occur isn't really a good answer.

I agree, but in the case herein, the "appropriate" view depends on what space you want to operate in.

In ##\mathbb{R}^5## the component ##x_2## is arbitrary, so the described "figure" is like a cylinder parallel to the 2-axis. However, we can look at the problem instead in ##\mathbb{R}^3##, where the problem is to represent the (column) vector ##(-3,1,-13)^T## as a linear combination of the 3-dimensional vectors in columns 1--5. The second column is the zero vector, so would have no effect at all on anything in the problem. Having an extraneous ##x_2## does not change the geometry in any way.
 

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