Solving Tension Acceleration in Bungee Jump Apparatus

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The problem involves designing a bungee jump apparatus, focusing on the physics of tension and acceleration experienced by a jumper. Key aspects include calculating spring stiffness, maximum tension in the cords, and the maximum acceleration of the jumper during the fall.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to relate potential energy to spring potential energy. There are questions about the potential energy equation and its application to the problem. Some participants explore the implications of having two cords on the calculations for spring stiffness.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and seeking clarification on concepts. There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate tension and acceleration, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their previous calculations and seeking further guidance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints such as the maximum fall distance and the mass of the jumper, which influence the calculations. There is also mention of submission limits and concerns about accuracy in their answers.

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Homework Statement



You are designing a "bungee jump" apparatus for adults. A bungee jumper falls from a high platform with two elastic cords tied to the ankles. The jumper falls freely for a while, with the cords slack. Then the jumper falls an additional distance with the cords increasingly tense. Assume that you have cords that are 13 m long, and that the cords stretch in the jump an additional 21 m for a jumper whose mass is 80 kg, the heaviest adult you will allow to use your bungee jump (heavier customers would hit the ground).

(c) Focus on the instant of greatest tension and, starting from a fundamental principle, determine the spring stiffness ks for each of the two cords.
ks = N/m

(d) What is the maximum tension that each one of the two cords must support without breaking? (This tells you what kind of cords you need to buy.)
FT = N

(e) What is the maximum acceleration |ay| = |dvy/dt| (in "g's") that the jumper experiences? (Note that |dpy/dt| = m|dvy/dt| if v is small compared to c.)
|ay| = g's (acceleration in m/s2 divided by 9.8 m/s2)



The Attempt at a Solution



I'm very lost as far as where to go with this problem. Any direction as to where to start and steps to follow would be great. THANKS.
 
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Could you try a conservation of energy for part C? Choose someplace to be your reference point where all the energy is potential, then, at the bottom of the fall, all of that energy has been transferred to spring potential energy.
 
im not sure what u mean by this...could you please elaborate a bit about the potential energy concept/equation that u are talking about...thanks
 
Well, the jumper falls from a height of 13 m before the cords begin to tighten. When they do, the jumper falls another 21 m, which is the maximum fall distance, where the tension in the cords is the greatest, and where the jumper momentarily stops at the bottom. You can choose this bottom point to be the reference point where there is no potential energy; it is all in the form of spring potential energy. There is only potential energy when the jumper is at the top of the cliff.

mgh=(kx^2)/2. You know h, you know m, and you know x.
 
oh ok so this is the calculation i did, let me know if its correct(i only have one submission left):

mgh=(ks^2)/2

(80)(9.8)(34) = (k)(21^2) / 2

k = 120.8888 N/m





*also, any ideas for tension force or acceleration?

*i tried Ft=kx = 392N and acceleration = change in velocity / change in time = 4.9

*these values were incorrect though, and I am not sure what else to use for it

THANKS
 
Hmm, now I'm wondering if you need to divide that k by two since you have two bungee cords. Maybe someone else knows?
 
yeah that might make more sense because i submitted 120.8888 N/m and it was incrrect.

so the correct k = 60.4444 ?
 
Probably. I don't know what sort of assignment this is but if you don't lose points for submitting wrong answers, I would try it.

If you do lose points, I would wait for a second opinion.
 
ok...well 120 didnt work so 60 is my best guess now

any help for tension force or acceleration?

the force isn't simply mass times 9.8 is it?

or is it stiffness times stretch?
 
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does anyone know how to find the tension force or acceleration?
 

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