Solving the Puzzle: Train and Car Speeds

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The problem involves a train moving at a constant speed of 33 m/s and a car that starts 37 meters behind the train, traveling at an initial speed of 47 m/s and accelerating at 5 m/s². The objective is to determine the speed of the car at the moment it passes the train.

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions and equations of motion for both the car and the train. There are suggestions to simplify the problem by considering the train as stationary relative to the car's initial speed. Some participants express confusion about how to connect the motion of the train with that of the car.

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Several participants have attempted to solve the problem using different equations of motion. Some have provided equations and initial conditions, while others have suggested methods for equating the positions of the car and train. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note that the problem involves relative motion and the need to account for both the car's acceleration and the train's constant speed. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the application of different equations of motion.

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A train is moving parallel and adjaceent to a highway with a constant speed of 33 m/s, initially a car is 37 m behind the train, traveling in the same direction as the train at 47 m/s and accelerating at 5 m/s^2.
What is the speed of the car just as it passes the train? Answer in units of m/s
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Basically I found that:
Vo= 47 m/s
a= 5 m/s^2
x= 37 m
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Somehow i found out that
t= .869919 s
Vf= 50.7838
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However my answer is incorrect. I know the train is still moving but I can't seem to figure out how to connect the train factor and the car factor. How would I go about to solving this question?
thanks
 
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How about assuming the train is stationary and taking the initial speed of the car to be 47 - 33 = 14 m.s-1? :wink:
 
Somehow you found out that...?

Write the two equations of motion for the car and train, and apply the initial conditions that you are given. Then set the position of the car and train equal to each other, and solve for t. Then use the t to tell you the speed of the car at that moment.
 
I tried the problem again, this is what I did

Car:
Vo=14m/s
a= 5 mi/s^2
x=37m

Train:
Vo=33 m/s
a= 0 m/s
x=37m

Vf^2=Vo^2 +2ax
Vf^2= (14 m/s)^2 + 2((5m/s^2)(37))
Vf^2= 196m^2/s^2 +740 m^2/s^2
square root of Vf^2= square root (936 m^2/s^2)
Vf= 30.5941 m/s
Then I took this number added it to 47 the initial cars velocity and i got 77.5941.
I entered the answer and I was still incorret.
Please help. Any suggestions? Thnaks
 
The general equations of motion to use are:

[tex]x = x_0 + v_0 t + \frac{a t^2}{2}[/tex]

[tex]v = v_0 + a t[/tex]

I'm not familiar with the [tex]v^2 = {v_0}^2 + 2 a x[/tex] equation, although that may be a valid shortcut. I would start by writing the above 2 equations for each vehicle, applying the initial conditions, and then solving the equations for equal displacements x at some time in the future. I'm pretty sure that approach will get you to the answer.
 

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