Solving the Relation: ##n((AXB) \cap (BXA)) = n(A \cap B)^2##

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the cardinality of the intersection of Cartesian products of two sets A and B, specifically exploring the equation n((AXB) ∩ (BXA)) = n(A ∩ B)². Participants are trying to understand how to derive or prove this relation given the cardinalities of the sets involved.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the meaning of the notation AXB and whether it refers to the Cartesian product A × B. There is also uncertainty about the interpretation of n(A ∩ B)² as the square of the cardinality of the intersection of sets A and B. Some suggest showing the relationship between the intersection of the Cartesian products and the Cartesian product of the intersections.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the notation and the implications of the cardinality relationship. Some guidance has been provided regarding the properties of Cartesian products and intersections, but no consensus has been reached on the proof or derivation of the relation.

Contextual Notes

It is noted that the question is relevant only if sets A and B are finite, which may influence the approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


If I am given ##n(A)## and ##n(B)## for two sets A and B, and also provided with ##n(A\cap B)^2##. We are supposed to find ##n((AXB) \cap (BXA))##.

Homework Equations


My teacher said that the formula for ##n((AXB) \cap (BXA)) = n(A \cap B)^2##. I am not sure how do you get to this result.

The Attempt at a Solution


So my question is, how do you prove (or derive the relation)-
##n((AXB) \cap (BXA)) = n(A \cap B)^2##
 
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cr7einstein said:

Homework Statement


If I am given ##n(A)## and ##n(B)## for two sets A and B, and also provided with ##n(A\cap B)^2##. We are supposed to find ##n((AXB) \cap (BXA))##.

Homework Equations


My teacher said that the formula for ##n((AXB) \cap (BXA)) = n(A \cap B)^2##. I am not sure how do you get to this result.

The Attempt at a Solution


So my question is, how do you prove (or derive the relation)-
##n((AXB) \cap (BXA)) = n(A \cap B)^2##
Clarification

By ##\displaystyle\ AXB\ ## do you mean the direct product ##\displaystyle\ A\times B\ ## ?

Also is ##\displaystyle\ n(A\cap B)^2\ ## actually the square of the number ##\displaystyle\ n(A\cap B)\ ## ?

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Yes. Sorry, I don't know how to get the thinner cross. And yes, for the second case too.
 
cr7einstein said:
Yes. Sorry, I don't know how to get the thinner cross. And yes, for the second case too.
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## \text{\times gives you}\ \times ##
 
You must show that ## (A\times B) \cap (B\times A) = (A\cap B)\times (A\cap B) ##. The answer is then straightforward if you know how to calculate the cardinal of a cartesian product.
More generally, ## (A\times B) \cap (C\times D) = (A\cap C) \times (B\cap D) ## (There is no such rule for a union)
btw: the question makes sense only if A and B are finite sets
 
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