Solving Trig Equations on Intervals [0, 2Pi]

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The discussion revolves around solving trigonometric equations within the interval [0, 2π]. The original poster presents two problems: one involving the equation 2tan²x - 12 = 0 and another involving sin x - sin x tan x = 0. Participants explore the methods for finding exact solutions and express challenges related to the identities and values involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the first equation into tan²x = 6 and express uncertainty about deriving exact values from arctan(√6). For the second equation, they explore factoring and simplifying the expression, with some participants questioning the identities used and the steps taken.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on factoring and simplifying the equations, while others express confusion and seek clarification on specific steps. There is a recognition of the need to consider all solutions within the specified interval, and multiple interpretations of the first equation are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering both positive and negative solutions when taking square roots, as well as the potential for typos in the original equations. There is an acknowledgment of the pressure related to upcoming tests, which may affect participants' confidence in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


I will ask two questions since they are both under the same lesson.

1) Determine exact solutions for each if domain is xe [0, 2Pi]
2tan^2x -12 = 0

2)Solve the following equations on interval xe [0, 2Pi]
sin x - sinxtanx = 0


Homework Equations


There aren't really any equations - just a lot of identities, lol.

The Attempt at a Solution


For 1)
2tan^2x = 12
tan^2x = 6
x = arctan (squareroot 6)
I had trouble with this one because (squareroot 6) isn't part of any special triangles, so I don't know how to get exact values from it.

For 2)
sin - sintan = 0
sin- sinsin/cos = 0
sincos - sin^2 / cos = 0
I had trouble with this one because there are two different identities instead of one. I didn't know how to continue from there.

Thank you.
 
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Hi TN17! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a square-root: √ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
TN17 said:
1) Determine exact solutions for each if domain is xe [0, 2Pi]
2tan^2x -12 = 0

x = arctan (squareroot 6)
I had trouble with this one because (squareroot 6) isn't part of any special triangles, so I don't know how to get exact values from it.

I don't know tan-1√6 either :redface:

(Don't forget you need all the solutions in [0,2π])
2)Solve the following equations on interval xe [0, 2Pi]
sin x - sinxtanx = 0

just factor it! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi TN17! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a square-root: √ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)


I don't know tan-1√6 either :redface:

(Don't forget you need all the solutions in [0,2π])


Yeah, I don't know how they got: pi/3, 2pi/3, 4pi/3 and 5pi/3
 
just factor it! :wink:[/QUOTE]
ok, well I got sin x -sinxtanx = 0
sin x- sinxsinx/cos = 0
sin x (1 - sinx/cos) = 0

...*Blank*.
I'm sorry, I'm pretty nervous for my test tomorrow. :S
 
TN17 said:
Yeah, I don't know how they got: pi/3, 2pi/3, 4pi/3 and 5pi/3
Well those solutions suggest they were solving [tex]tan(x)=\pm\sqrt{3}[/tex] not [itex]\sqrt{6}[/itex]. Maybe you made a typo somewhere, like, it could be [tex]2tan^2x-6=0[/tex] or [tex](2tan(x))^2-12=4tan^2(x)-12=0[/tex]

TN17 said:
ok, well I got sin x -sinxtanx = 0
sin x- sinxsinx/cos = 0
sin x (1 - sinx/cos) = 0

...*Blank*.
I'm sorry, I'm pretty nervous for my test tomorrow. :S
Well if we have two products a and b such that ab=0, then what does this say about the solutions? Think back to when you would solve quadratics.
 
Mentallic said:
Well if we have two products a and b such that ab=0, then what does this say about the solutions? Think back to when you would solve quadratics.

Wow, mind block today.
Thanks, I solved it.
I feel pretty dumb for asking in the first place. :S

I didn't simplify tan. I did:
sinx - sinxtanx = 0
sinx(1-tanx) = 0
Case I:
sinx=0
x = 0, Pi, 2Pi

Case II:
1-tanx = 0
tanx = 1
x= Pi/4, 5Pi/4
 
TN17 said:
Wow, mind block today.
Thanks, I solved it.
I feel pretty dumb for asking in the first place. :S

I didn't simplify tan. I did:
sinx - sinxtanx = 0
sinx(1-tanx) = 0
Case I:
sinx=0
x = 0, Pi, 2Pi

Case II:
1-tanx = 0
tanx = 1
x= Pi/4, 5Pi/4
Good, I was hoping you'll catch on and realize it's easier if you don't convert tan :smile:

By the way, with the first question, whether it was [tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex] or [tex]\sqrt{6}[/tex], make sure that when you take the square root of both sides that you put in the [tex]\pm[/tex]. You need to solve for both cases where [tex]tan(x)=\sqrt{3}[/tex] and [tex]tan(x)=-\sqrt{3}[/tex]. Remember that.
 

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