Solving Unknown Compound: A:O = 2:3, 8.0g O, 28g A

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The discussion revolves around solving a chemistry homework problem involving a compound with a mole ratio of A:O = 2:3, where participants are tasked with determining the atomic weight of element A, the weight of one mole of the oxide, the theoretical weight of the oxide formed from a given mass of A, and the percentage yield based on actual production. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and stoichiometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for guidance on how to solve the problem, indicating a lack of understanding of the concepts involved.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the conversion of grams of oxygen to moles.
  • There is a calculation presented for determining the moles of oxygen and subsequently the moles of A, leading to a proposed atomic weight of A as 56 g/mol.
  • Participants discuss the stoichiometry of the reaction, with one noting that the molar mass calculated is actually for A, not oxygen.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of moles, with a participant clarifying that the earlier calculation mistakenly referred to moles of oxygen instead of moles of A.
  • Some participants express confusion about the reaction equation and the derivation of the balanced equation for the formation of A2O3 from A and O2.
  • One participant suggests that assuming A is iron might simplify the understanding of the problem.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the molar ratio remains consistent regardless of the specific reaction pathway.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the interpretation of the reaction and the derivation of the balanced equation. Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the stoichiometry and the relationships between the compounds involved.

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Some calculations and assumptions about the reaction may depend on the specific definitions of the elements and compounds involved, which are not fully clarified in the discussion. The exact nature of the reaction and the feasibility of the proposed pathways remain unresolved.

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Students studying stoichiometry, chemical reactions, and those seeking help with homework problems related to chemical compounds and their properties.

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Homework Statement



A compound containing element A and oxygen has a mole ratio of A:O = 2:3. If 8.0 grams of the oxide contains 2.4 grams of oxygen...

a) what is the atomic weight of A?
b) what is the weight of one mole of the oxide?
c) what is the theoretical weight of the oxide formed when 28 g of A is heated in excess oxygen?
d) what is the % yield if 38 grams was produced from 28 grams of A?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I didn't have any because I barely understood what to do :( can someone please guide me on how to solve this? It'll be of great help ^^
 
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Start with the oxygen. How many moles of oxygen is equivalent to that 2.4 grams of oxygen from the compound?
 
so I'll convert the oxygen grams to moles right? :)
 
Yes. Then try to find out how many moles of the oxide you have (look at the formula).
 
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8.0 - 5.6 = 2.4 gO

2.4 gO x 1 mole O / 16 gO = 0.15 moles O

A:O = 2:3
A:0.15 = 2:3


\frac{A}{0.15} x \frac{2}{3}


3A = (0.15)(2)
3A = 0.30
A = 0.1 moles Oxygen

a)
AW = g/mole
AW = 5.6 gO / 0.1 moles O
AW = 56 g/mole

b)
2:3
A2O3
= (56)(2) + (16)(3)
= 160 g

c)
A + O2 \rightarrow A2O3
4A + 3O2 \rightarrow 2A2O3

1 mole A x 2moles A2O3 / 4moles A = 0.5

.5 moles A x 2 moles A2O3 / 4moles A = 0.25

LR: 0.25
= 0.25 x 160
= 40 g

d)
% = \frac{actual}{theoretical} (100)

% = \frac{38}{40} (100)

% = 95

Is this correct? I'm sure with my a & b but with c and d, I don't really get how that happened :( I asked for help in solving this, and this was the solution he gave.
 
haengbon said:
3A = (0.15)(2)
3A = 0.30
A = 0.1 moles Oxygen

No - this is not "moles of Oxygen". This is number of moles of A in the sample.

AW = g/mole
AW = 5.6 gO / 0.1 moles O
AW = 56 g/mole[/quot]e

Here it becomes obvious - 56 g/mol is not molar of oxygen. It is molar mass of A.

160 g

Miraculously you get the correct answer, by ignoring incorrect information :wink:

Answers given for c & d are correct, but this is just a simple stoichiometry. You have a balanced reaction equation

4A + 3O2 -> 2 A2O3

that gives molar ratio, you know molar mass of A... I guess it can be symbolic A instead of some well defined element that throws you off. Would it be easier if I will tell you to solve c & d assuming A is the iron?

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Borek said:
No - this is not "moles of Oxygen". This is number of moles of A in the sample.

AW = g/mole
AW = 5.6 gO / 0.1 moles O
AW = 56 g/mole

Here it becomes obvious - 56 g/mol is not molar of oxygen. It is molar mass of A.

oops! I'm very sorry for that :)) the one in my paper was 0.1 moles of A :D

Miraculously you get the correct answer, by ignoring incorrect information :wink:

haha xD


Answers given for c & d are correct, but this is just a simple stoichiometry. You have a balanced reaction equation

4A + 3O2 -> 2 A2O3

that gives molar ratio, you know molar mass of A... I guess it can be symbolic A instead of some well defined element that throws you off. Would it be easier if I will tell you to solve c & d assuming A is the iron?

thank you! um, but the part that I'm really confused about is this one ...

4A + 3O2 -> 2 A2O3

if we take the balancing off..
A + O2 -> A2O3

Where did we get A + O2 ? Is this common knowledge? because all I understood was A2O3 since we had a mole ratio of 2:3 right? :D
 
Not sure what your problem is. There are many ways of producing oxides, but direct reaction between the element and oxygen is the simplest one (even if technically not always possible). Even if it is not possible, you were told in the question that 38 grams of A2O3 were produced from 28 grams of A - no matter what the real reaction was, molar ratio of the A and A2O3 will be always the same.

Then A2O3 was given, O[ub]2[/sub] is a common knowledge, A is just the simplest way of approaching the problem.
 
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