What are the empirical and molecular formulas of the compound

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The discussion revolves around determining the empirical and molecular formulas of a compound composed of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, based on combustion data. Participants are exploring the steps necessary to derive these formulas from the provided experimental results.

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  • One participant presents a combustion experiment yielding CO2 and H2O, seeking guidance on the steps to find the empirical and molecular formulas.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the moles of carbon and hydrogen from the combustion products, while noting that the contribution of oxygen from the air should be ignored.
  • A third participant outlines a step-by-step approach, including finding grams of carbon and hydrogen, calculating grams of oxygen, and deriving the empirical formula from mole ratios.
  • A later reply indicates that the outlined method was successful for one participant, but does not confirm whether others have reached a solution.

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There is no consensus on the final formulas, as participants are still discussing the steps and calculations involved. Some participants have successfully worked through the problem, while others are still seeking clarity.

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Participants have not resolved the specific contributions of oxygen from the compound versus that from the air, which may affect the calculations. Additionally, the exact method for deriving the empirical formula from the mole ratios remains a point of discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in organic chemistry, particularly those learning about empirical and molecular formula calculations from combustion analysis.

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"A compound contains only carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Combustion of 10.68 mg of the compound yields 16.01 mg CO2 and 4.37 mg H2O. The molar mass of the compound is 176.1 g/mol. What are the empirical and molecular formulas of the compound."

I saw an earlier post but it wasn't solved yet. There were some good explanations but can I get a step by step guide to solving this, i just can't seem to get it

I have started off by finding the moles of CO2 and H2O but after that step i cannot find the next step. The answer to the problems are C3H4O3 and C6H8O6
 
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You can work out how many moles of C and H are produced from the masses of the CO2 and H2O given, ignore the oxygen because you don't know how much came from the air.
You know how many moles of the substance there were so you can work out how many carbon and hydrogen it had.
You have the molecular mass so any difference between the amount of carbon and hydrogen you worked out must be oxygen.
 
1) find the grams of C from CO2, find the grams of H from H2O

2) Original amount - grams of (C + H) = Grams of O

3) find the moles of C from CO2, H from H2O, O from molar mass of O

4) CxHyOz ... divide by the smallest amount of moles and manipulate your findings till you have a whole number which gives you your Empirical Formula

5) MW/EW = some value = Multiply your EF by this value.
 
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i just worked it ... it works, have you solved it yet?
 

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