Solving Velocity Time Graph: Car 1 vs. Car 2

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The discussion revolves around analyzing a velocity-time graph comparing two cars, Car 1 and Car 2. Car 1 starts at a higher velocity and subsequently decreases speed, while Car 2 maintains a constant speed. Participants are trying to determine when Car 2 will catch up to Car 1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the slopes of the velocity-time graph for both cars and question the relevance of these slopes in determining when Car 2 catches up. There is also a focus on the initial distance between the cars and the equations of motion involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and the equations involved. Some have offered equations to relate the positions of the cars, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding acceleration and initial conditions.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the initial distance between the cars and the correct values for acceleration. The setup of the problem, including whether both cars start from the same position, is also under discussion.

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Homework Statement


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/caracarbgraph2.png/[PLAIN]


[h2]Homework Equations[/h2]
This image is 2 cars, and Car 1 is starting at a higher velocity rate than Car 2, which is constant @ t = 0. Now then, the car is ahead and then decreases speed over time, I am trying to figure out when car 2 well eventually catch up to car 1.


[h2]The Attempt at a Solution[/h2]
I am not sure if there is any equation to this, but it looks like they go the same speed at 5 seconds, the slope of car 1 is 6 m/s^2 (70 m/s - 10 m/s = 60 m/s/10s = 6m/s^2) However I'm not even sure if that actually helps.. since car 2 has a slope of 0.
 
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Nirupt said:

Homework Statement


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/caracarbgraph2.png

Homework Equations


This image is 2 cars, and Car 1 is starting at a higher velocity rate than Car 2, which is constant @ t = 0. Now then, the car is ahead and then decreases speed over time, I am trying to figure out when car 2 well eventually catch up to car 1.

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure if there is any equation to this, but it looks like they go the same speed at 5 seconds, the slope of car 1 is 6 m/s^2 (70 m/s - 10 m/s = 60 m/s/10s = 6m/s^2) However I'm not even sure if that actually helps.. since car 2 has a slope of 0.

You need to know what was the initial distance between the cars.

ehild
 
[STRIKE]40 t = 70 t + 1/2 * (-14) t^2[/STRIKE]

My bad.

40 t = 70 t + 1/2 * (-6) t^2
 
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rollingstein said:
40 t = 70 t + 1/2 * (-14) t^2

That would be true when they start from the same place (if you used the correct acceleration).

ehild
 
ehild said:
That is true when they start from the same place.

ehild

In the absence of other info. I assumed that, yes.
 
Why -14?
 
Nirupt said:
Why -14?

What's acceleration?
 
That is not -14. Check.

ehild
 
  • #10
ehild said:
That is not -14. Check.

ehild

Right. My blunder. -6.
 
  • #11
40 t = 70 t + 1/2 * (-6) t^2
 
  • #12
It's a quadratic right? How did you know to use that formula?
so A = -3, B = 30, and C= 0
= -5 (+/-) SQRT(1) = 0, and 10

So 10 seconds is the answer.
 
  • #13
Nirupt said:
It's a quadratic right? How did you know to use that formula?

Which?
 
  • #14
Nirupt said:
It's a quadratic right? How did you know to use that formula?
so A = -3, B = 30, and C= 0
= -5 (+/-) SQRT(1) = 0, and 10

So 10 seconds is the answer.

What kind of motions are involved?

ehild
 
  • #15
Displacement, acceleration, initial velocity, and time?
 
  • #16
Car A moves with constant acceleration. You should know the formula for displacement in terms of time.

ehild
 
  • #17
x =v0t + ½*at2

But it was setup that x was 40t because the distance was needed between the 2 cars correct?
 
  • #18
If the set-up was that both cars started from the same position x=0, then the position of car A is xA=70t-3t2 as function of the time t and the position of car B is xB=40t. Car A leaves car B at the start, but slows down and car B catches it at the end. At that instant, both cars are at the same place again, xA=XB. 40t=70t-3 t2

ehild
 

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