Solving $z^4=-1$ with a Complex Number

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the equation $z^4 = -1$ where $z$ is a complex number. Participants explore various methods and approaches to find the solutions, including the use of Euler's identity and polar coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using polar coordinates and Euler's formula to express $z^4 = -1$ as $r^4 e^{4i\theta} = e^{i(\pi + 2\pi n)}$, leading to conditions on $r$ and $\theta$.
  • Another participant humorously corrects a previous mistake regarding the equation, indicating a playful tone in the discussion.
  • Some participants propose using the factorization of $z^4 + 1$ to find the roots, suggesting that it can be expressed in terms of simpler factors involving $i$.
  • There is a mention of the necessity to convert to polar form to evaluate expressions like $\sqrt{i}$ and $i^{3/2}$, indicating a preference for certain methods over others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to solving the equation, and while some methods are acknowledged as valid, there is no consensus on a single preferred method. The discussion remains open with various competing views.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the methods and the handling of complex numbers are not explicitly stated, and the discussion includes corrections and playful banter that may affect the clarity of the mathematical arguments.

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For some odd reason, I can't think right now. How do I solve $z^4 = -1$ where z is a complex number?
 
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dwsmith said:
For some odd reason, I can't think right now. How do I solve $z^4 = -1$ where z is a complex number?

There's a few ways. The easiest is IMO this way...

\[ \displaystyle \begin{align*} z^4 &= -1 \\ \left(r\,e^{i\theta}\right)^4 &= e^{i\left(\pi + 2\pi n\right)}\textrm{ where }n \in \mathbf{Z} \\ r^4e^{4i\theta} &= 1e^{i\left(\pi + 2\pi n\right)} \\ r^4 = 1 \textrm{ and } 4\theta &= \pi + 2\pi n \\ r = 1 \textrm{ and } \theta &= \frac{\pi}{4} + \frac{\pi n}{2} \end{align*} \]

Now evaluate the values for $\displaystyle \theta $ which are in the region $\displaystyle \theta \in (-\pi, \pi]$.
 
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Prove It said:
There's a few ways. The easiest is IMO this way...

\[ \displaystyle \begin{align*} z^4 &= -1 \\ z^4 - 1 &= 0 \end{align*} \]
Are you sure? :p
 
Sherlock said:
Are you sure? :p

Oops, I meant +1 haha, editing :P
 
If we use Euler's identity we can easily find that $\displaystyle z^n+1 = \prod_{k=0}^{n-1}\left(z-e^{i\left(\dfrac{\pi}{n}+\dfrac{2\pi}{n} k\right)}\right).$

---------- Post added at 00:31 ---------- Previous post was at 00:19 ----------

Prove It said:
Oops, I meant +1 haha, editing :P
I think the idea of your earlier solution does work, though.

\begin{aligned}z^4+1 & = z^4-i^2 \\& = (z^2-i)(z^2+i) \\& = (z-\sqrt{i})(z+\sqrt{i})(z^2-i^3) \\& = (z-\sqrt{i})(z+\sqrt{i})(z-i^{3/2})(z+i^{3/2}). \end{aligned}
 
Sherlock said:
If we use Euler's identity we can easily find that $\displaystyle z^n+1 = \prod_{k=0}^{n-1}\left(z-e^{i\left(\dfrac{\pi}{n}+\dfrac{2\pi}{n} k\right)}\right).$

---------- Post added at 00:31 ---------- Previous post was at 00:19 ----------

I think the idea of your earlier solution does work, though.

\begin{aligned}z^4+1 & = z^4-i^2 \\& = (z^2-i)(z^2+i) \\& = (z-\sqrt{i})(z+\sqrt{i})(z^2-i^3) \\& = (z-\sqrt{i})(z+\sqrt{i})(z-i^{3/2})(z+i^{3/2}). \end{aligned}

True, but to evaluate $\displaystyle \sqrt{i}$ and $\displaystyle i^{\frac{3}{2}}$ requires converting to polars, so it's easier to convert right at the start :)
 

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